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[–] saywhatisabigw@lemmy.world 29 points 1 month ago

Completely incompetent police woke up the entire state.

[–] spizzat2@lemm.ee 25 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

My phone has the ability to disable Amber alerts separately from most other emergency alerts, but this one went out as an "Extreme threat" alert, and it feels unwise to disable those.

Maybe the fact that a potentially dangerous person exists 7 hours away from me shouldn't be classified as an extreme threat?

Aside from blocking everything, is there something we can do to get these reclassified, or at least make them regional?

[–] bluGill@fedia.io 11 points 1 month ago

Apply political pressure. Though of course there are downsides of that too.

The first amber alert I got woke me up at 2am. Next morning the kid was discovered - with the parent who had legal custody the whole time. Because of that situation my state almost never issues amber alerts and when they do a lot more time is wasted verifying that it is a real problem (wasted because it is a real problem when time counts - I have no idea how often it isn't wasted because the investigation discovered it wasn't a real issue)

[–] scsi@lemm.ee 8 points 1 month ago

It would appear when filling out a request for a BLUE Alert (pdf) and submitting it to the DPS[1], there are no fields present allowing the submitter to specify how large of an area/region should be included. This leads me to believe the TX DPS in Austin is at fault for setting the area to way, way larger than reasonably required.

The above "7 hours away" is not an exaggeration, this alert was upper NW TX and anyone who lives in Southern TX is 7+ hrs away driving really fast with the wind at your back and no traffic.

[1] https://www.dps.texas.gov/section/intelligence-counterterrorism/request-alert-activation

[–] Zachariah@lemmy.world 24 points 1 month ago (4 children)

A Blue Alert is a public bulletin that informs the media, law enforcement, and the public about the search for a person who is suspected of harming or killing a law enforcement officer.

Sounds pointless even then not a false alarm. Just use a regular shelter-in-place alert or whatever. No need to also specify cops are in harm’s way. That should be obvious.

[–] francisfordpoopola@lemmy.world 28 points 1 month ago

And what the hell are we supposed to do? Break out my pistol and head north?

[–] Zachariah@lemmy.world 15 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Or maybe I’m wrong. What if we had colors for all occupations that frequently get shot?

Gold for teachers

Silver for military

White for postal worker

Green for retail sales workers

Yellow for taxi drivers

Brown for waiters

[–] mystik@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You forgot a category for school kids. You did say "frequently" ...

[–] Zachariah@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago

Damnit, that’s the whole reason I added the comment.

Pink for girl students

Blue for boy students

(I’m assuming the color-coding people only believe in two genders.)

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

Delivery drivers too!

[–] scsi@lemm.ee 3 points 1 month ago

The BLUE Alert Act[1] was passed by the House 406 to 2 under the Obama Administration, with a very low percentage of non-votes.[2]

[–] Nougat@fedia.io -5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

TBF, if someone is on the run after having attacked a police officer, you could safely assume that they are a danger to anyone who stands in their way.

[–] Zachariah@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] Nougat@fedia.io 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

But you said

No need to also specify cops are in harm’s way.

I'm saying that specifying that communicates the seriousness of the situation, and the potential danger to the public.

[–] Zachariah@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I don’t see how the occupation of the person getting shot makes it any more serious.

And cops would already communicate to each other that one of them was harmed, so I’m not sure it helps them either.

[–] Nougat@fedia.io -2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

TBF, if someone is on the run after having attacked a police officer, you could safely assume that they are a danger to anyone who stands in their way.

[–] Zachariah@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

TBF, if someone is on the run after having attacked an anyone, you could safely assume that they are a danger to anyone who stands in their way.

I don’t currently think so, but you may be right: An attacker is more dangerous if they’ll harm a cop.

[–] Nougat@fedia.io 0 points 1 month ago

An attacker is more dangerous if they’ll harm a cop.

That's what I was going for, and I was not clear enough. If you're someone who's going to attack a cop in order to escape, you're far more likely to do anything to remain uncaptured.

[–] fluxion@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

They really do render these emergency systems useless by using them in such sn annoying and ineffective way.

If an alert actually meant the risk was immediate and near by based on cell tower proximity or something i would check them every time, note license numbers, etc

But 90% of the time it's some shit out in Bumblefuck, TX and the car would have travelling straight to me by air to be within my vicinity any time soon.

[–] TragicNotCute@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago

This is how we will get the community on our side!

[–] TexMexBazooka@lemm.ee 7 points 1 month ago

Yeah I haven’t gotten back to sleep since.

[–] HootinNHollerin@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

One of the main things I don’t miss since I left Texas is overbearing police

[–] TehWorld@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

I debated with myself for an hour or so this AM, as this alert system SHOULD be a good thing, but in the end, I'm turning them off. There are tornado sirens for bad weather, and the odds of me actually having actionable notice from alerts like this are astronomically low.

[–] Soapbox1858@lemm.ee 2 points 1 month ago

I feel like I am the only person in Texas who didn't get this alert, and yes I do have my alerts turned on because I normally get every amber alert and panic dismiss them without reading just to make the annoying noise go away.

[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Thankfully I had already disabled the blue alerts