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Who can suggest an ethical SMTP provider for low volume transactional mail? I'm willing to pay up to 2€/month for a few hundred mails per month.

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[–] umami_wasbi@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 month ago (2 children)
[–] jewbacca117@lemmy.world 22 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I bet op is one of those hippies that doesn't like their SMTP tested on animals

[–] ITGuyLevi@programming.dev 2 points 1 month ago

Thank you good sir, now I have coffee on my robe!

[–] callcc@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Yeah, sorry it's not a precise term. I mean a non asshole company.

[–] callcc@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Mostly that they respect the privacy of my users and that they don't have shady business practices that want to push you towards an over-expensive paid tier.

[–] umami_wasbi@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 month ago

I'm using Postmark for my Vaultwarden. Nothing major I know of.

[–] FlightyPenguin@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

I don't know what you mean by "ethical", but I use Sendgrid. They have a free tier that can send up to 100 emails a day.

[–] tofubl@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I've read good things about migadu. Haven't used it myself.

[–] callcc@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Pretty nice but way more expensive then simplymail

[–] tofubl@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

EU servers might be worth something to some people, depending on where they are in the world. And while 190% is indeed "way more expensive", relatively speaking, it's still "well under" your goal of EUR 2 per month.

[–] callcc@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

That's actually a good point. Will need to think about server location and GDPR compliance.

[–] vengefulpunk@supernova.place 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I use Brevo and have not had any issues. Your usage qualifies for their free plan.

[–] gramie@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 month ago

I use Brevo as well. Free tier: 300 emails per day.

Very happy with them.

[–] hendrik@palaver.p3x.de 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

You could use some containerized mail server like Mailcow. They're pretty alright to set up and should work fine for low volume. At least in my experience. Unless you don't want to deal with mail yourself, then you should maybe consider a paid service. But I don't have any experience with those.

[–] callcc@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I specifically want to not deal with deliverability beyond the content and volume of my mails.

[–] JupiterThirdMoon@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I use purelymail, you can register unlimited number of domains and get SMTP + IMAP in return (+ Roundcube webmail). Perfect for my usage with few automated services

[–] callcc@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Amazing! Now this is something I haven't heard of. I think we might have a winner here! Best thing, I could use it for transactional mail on all my websites for 10€/yr. Including as many inboxes as needed. Nice!

[–] meldrik@lemmy.wtf 4 points 1 month ago

SMTP2GO - 1000 free emails a month, 200 emails a per day.

[–] bmcgonag@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Been using Purelymail, full email, but SMTP as well, and love the service thus far.

[–] wraith@lemm.ee 3 points 1 month ago

I’ll second PurelyMail. Easy to set up and they have explainers for all the various settings. I pay $10 a year for “unlimited” domains and mailboxes (some caveats but for minimal mail we won’t hit any limits).

[–] callcc@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Exactly what I'm looking for. Thanks a lot!

[–] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

i suspect this falls under the golden rule of 3... price,quality,[ethics].

you get to pick 2

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Agreed, and well-articulated. I think you (OP) need to ask yourself whether you’re willing to pay the appropriate market rate for the service or not. I don’t know what that is, but I expect it’s higher than you’ve expressed.

[–] callcc@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Have a look at purelymail mentioned by others. It's almost exactly what I'm looking for.

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 month ago

Also, we're in beta

That means there might be a few hiccups along the way. If you run across any problems you can always let us know, and we'll do our best to fix them.

I would have thought this is a disqualifier in terms of quality of the service, but if that's acceptable to you then I'm glad you got something that works.

[–] TheButtonJustSpins@infosec.pub 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Check out MXRoute. (Specifically the lifetime promo, though I've seen it on sale for cheaper.)

[–] callcc@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Thanks but that's not what I'm looking for. I need to send mails only.