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[–] npz@lemm.ee 163 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

Well they're still blowing up kids with these things so idk if it's the most brilliant targeting technique

[–] Vent@lemm.ee 81 points 3 weeks ago (36 children)

Compared to dumping white phosphorus over hospitals and refugee camps, killing 2 (?) children during an attack that targeted hundreds/thousands is many orders of magnitude more precise. I hate dead innocents as much as anyone, but you gotta admit the pagers were effective and included way less collateral damage than the methods Isreal has employed in recent history.

The point of the post isn't to praise the pagers attack. It's to point out that Isreal is capable of causing less collateral damage in Gaza but chooses not to.

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[–] slaacaa@lemmy.world 86 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] VeganCheesecake@lemmy.blahaj.zone 55 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

It took them years to prepare that operation. It was against Hezbollah, not Hamas, because they saw them as the bigger threat.

The war in Gazah is barbaric, but the sensible immediate alternative would have been a very targeted operation to find and rescue the hostages, not something like this.

[–] Madison420@lemmy.world 49 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

The idf keep killing their hostages in what seem like very purposeful attempts to do so.

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[–] jmcs@discuss.tchncs.de 16 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

And it required Hezbollah to have no concept of logistic security. Maybe Hamas is not as amateurish as Hezbollah in that regard.

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[–] Annoyed_Crabby@monyet.cc 46 points 3 weeks ago

There is no accident.

[–] EleventhHour@lemmy.world 32 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Mossad: “Making 40,000 pagers full of C4 and then convincing everyone in Gaza that they’re hip in 2024 is not profitable! What are we, Apple?”

Also Mossad: “But what about Lebanon?”

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[–] Etterra@lemmy.world 30 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Who's confused? They wanted to do a genocide so now they're doing a genocide.

[–] Snowclone@lemmy.world 13 points 3 weeks ago

It's more like, they keep doing the genocide.

[–] overt_mess@lemmy.world 30 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

But how would they arbitrarily punish everyone without carpet bombing? It’s not like everyone has a pager.

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[–] Doorbook@lemmy.world 25 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

"we have infiltrate the supply chain of communication devices order by Hizbollah what should we do"

  • "put GPS tracker so we know where they are"
  • "we can listen to all their plans and communication"
  • "put a bomb inside ..."
[–] MiDaBa@lemmy.ml 16 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

I am fully against this booby trapping war crime regime but the problem with your first options is that pagers don't transmit like phones do. That means there would be no way to remotely aquire the GPS or other saved data undetected.

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[–] KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

to be fair, a gps tracker probably wouldn't be very useful. You wouldn't even know which pager is held by who. It would just tell you where people "probably are generally" which you probably already know.

you could intercept communications, but they're probably already doing that. doing it at a pager level would be weird, you should be doing it from a transmission level. But i don't know how pagers work so don't quote me on that.

you could put a bomb inside of it. That's an option...

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[–] kingshrubb@lemmy.world 23 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Terrorism is bad and we should condemn it. Unless it's done by the United States in which case we should call it "anti -communism or defending democracy". Or if it's done by Israel we can call it "self-defense".

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[–] Mordred_85@lemmy.world 17 points 3 weeks ago

Just wait the carpet bombing will arrive sooner or later.

[–] pyrflie@lemm.ee 15 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Room had too be made. Same as what's happening in the West Bank right now. The Lebenon isn't an expansion target.

None of this should be a surprise to anyone.

[–] Zementid@feddit.nl 15 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (6 children)

Hamas != Hisbollah

But I start to wonder if they Knew about the planed attacks and let them happen to start this massacre.

It feels like the all seeing eye of Mossad was ignored on purpose. I hope Netanjahus Name will be branded for ever. He deserves no good mention in History of humanity.

On the other side... humanity faces the biggest historic event ever and no one cares (climate change)

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[–] ChefKalash@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I mean, not every individual has a pager on them necessarily. Not that it's excused either way

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[–] capital@lemmy.world 11 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Is lemmy having trouble telling the difference between Hamas and Hezbollah now?

[–] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 39 points 3 weeks ago (18 children)

No? This is implying that Israel has had the technology to precisely target people for months but chooses to destroy a whole region instead went it came to Palestine.

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[–] KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

no i think they're talking about it cuz its israel

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[–] RangerJosie@lemmy.world 11 points 3 weeks ago

Whoa. Hey guys. New war crime just dropped.

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