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[–] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 58 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

How did you get pics from inside Mozilla HQ? What a shitshow of a company at this point.

Im grateful to the people there keeping Firefox alive, but at this point they should consider splitting off from Mozilla and maintaining a fork or just joining the librewolf team.

[–] yozul@beehaw.org 19 points 1 month ago (2 children)

It would be nice, but they gotta eat.

[–] LWD@lemm.ee 16 points 1 month ago

The one Mozilla executive who agrees with you (that employees should be put ahead of profit) is currently embroiled in a lawsuit with Mozilla over that.

[–] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 13 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Im 100% certain there is enough funding going to mozilla that is specifically intended to help firefox. All those donors, private and commercial, could/would switch if the public stunt of declaring mozilla a sinking ship is aggressive enough. I dont believe for even a second that more than 5-10% of mozillas money is going towards actual core firefox/thunderbird dev work. Its not cheap to develop im sure, but nowhere near the amount of money that mozilla sucks up every year.

[–] Ephera@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 month ago

Their finance reports are public. You should look at those, if that's what you believe.

[–] loaExMachina@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I installed Palemoon because it's more independent from Firefox, having forked longer ago, but what I'm really looking forward to is for a usable browser to come from the Servo project.

[–] JaimeC@noc.social 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

@loaExMachina @unexposedhazard I have Pale Moon installed for testing purposes but as a general use browser it's pretty useless on the modern web since the developer REFUSES to allow it to support the Widevine plug-in making it useless for watching streaming video. It won't even load YouTube videos properly.

[–] greywolf0x1@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Not supporting DRM on the web is a concious choice I support, you should have base Firefox for your proprietary tech consumptions

[–] Draconic_NEO@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

The lack of sandboxing is concerning though. Regardless of DRM needs. After all a web browser is basically a JavaScript runtime environment that runs code from all over the web. Having that not be sandboxed is a serious risk, even on operating systems like Linux where applications generally run with restricted privileges.

[–] JaimeC@noc.social 2 points 1 month ago

@greywolf0x1 I do use FIrefox. As I said, I only have Pale Moon for testing my own HTML. It's pretty useless otherwise as it is.

[–] celeste@lemmy.blahaj.zone 44 points 1 month ago

Still we need an alternative to the Chromium/Chrome monopoly. I can't imagine living in a world without uBlockOrigin/ good adblockers.

[–] sgibson5150 27 points 1 month ago (1 children)

They seriously think I would want to donate my money when their useless leadership is getting paid millions. Out of their fucking tree is what they are. 😆

[–] Mwa@lemm.ee 6 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Even on thunderbird they like to ask for donations

[–] greywolf0x1@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

thunderbird is actually a different subdivision and most of their donations go towards developing thunderbird and k-9mail, you should support them if you can

[–] Mwa@lemm.ee 1 points 1 month ago

Ohhh that makes more sense

[–] sgibson5150 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Does Thunderbird still belong to Mozilla? I thought they'd dumped it.

[–] Mwa@lemm.ee 2 points 1 month ago

pretty sure yeah but i can be wrong i aint sure

[–] normalexit@lemmy.world 20 points 1 month ago (3 children)
[–] Email@lemmy.world 65 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

To summarize:

FF has been losing market share while hiking chairman salary.

Fediverse support and Mastodon are being discontinued in December.

Mozilla is hiring positions for ads and for AI (Which faces backlash for profiting off FOSS development).

Not so long ago users were also upset with the quiet addition of 'Website Advertising Preferences.'

[–] Scolding7300@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

Technically the graph endedon 2019, but it was a major loss until theb

They also recently added built-in AI chat support, which just gives you contextual “summarize this text” type of stuff on your right click menu. But still, it just goes to show that Mozilla is really leaning into AI.

[–] infeeeee@lemm.ee 10 points 1 month ago

OP posted this toot with this image revently in a different comunity:

https://feddit.org/post/2953102

[–] BallShapedMan@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Another thread on this recommended waterfox. Based on Firefox. Might be worth checking out. I'm using it for now.

[–] djsaskdja@reddthat.com 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I’ve been using LibreWolf for a while now. Seems to receive updates from upstream faster than any other fork. Working quite well for me.

[–] greywolf0x1@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 month ago

Also Zen browser

[–] Thann@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Ill be the chair for half a million a year!

[–] 101@feddit.org 2 points 1 month ago

Firefox would not exist by then.

[–] LWD@lemm.ee 1 points 4 weeks ago

@davidrevoy@framapiaf.org would you consider submitting this picture in Mozilla's latest Firefox fan art competition? So far, there aren't any entries.

https://connect.mozilla.org/t5/discussions/open-call-for-firefox-fan-art-help-us-celebrate-the-upcoming/td-p/72082