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Land of Lincoln...the prairie state...corn, soybeans, and pumpkins. Chicago-inclusive, but there's a lot more to Illinois than just the Windy City.

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[–] But_Class_War@midwest.social 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

This doesn't even solve let alone address clip size, handguns, crime overall, poverty, or climate change on top of assault weapons so what's the point of anything? /s

[–] Landsharkgun@midwest.social 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well this is stupid. Three-quarters of homicides are done with handguns. That's not even counting suicides, which cause even more deaths than murders do. If they wanted to reduce gun violence, they'd ban handguns. I get that people are scared, but this will not fix the problem.

[–] ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The "assault style" weapons part of the law won't really do much, but the magazine size part does. In other states with similar magazine size regulations, there have been quantifiable reductions in gun deaths.

[–] Landsharkgun@midwest.social 1 points 1 year ago

Well that's good to hear, they should have just done that then. Just googled it, looks like 60% reductions for mass shootings. That's good, but I don't know that it will move the meter much overall when so few deaths are from mass shootings in the first place.

[–] nothing@lemm.ee -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Gun crime is solved! Totally not going to see any gang shootings or guns with "polished" serials for sale.

[–] negativeyoda@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Most of the illegal guns in Chicago were purchased in Indiana. This is like having a "no pissing" section in a public pool

[–] blackberries33@sh.itjust.works -4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So what's it going to take to get a similar ban nation-wide?

[–] seahorse@midwest.social 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Never gonna happen. And with all these armed fascists running around it shouldn't until they don't exist anymore and even then I'm skeptical.

[–] blackberries33@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

My question was meant literally. I'm not asking what guns laws should be, nor how likely any new legislation is. I'm asking for a thought-out answer on what it would take nationally for a similar ban.

[–] 9thSun@midwest.social 2 points 1 year ago

For this conversation to be had nationally I think a minimum of 3/4 of the population will have to have long term faith in the Government to be fair and just. Then theyd also have to have complete faith that enemies foreign and domestic (think criminals, terrorists, violent nations) won't use these weapons against them. That's what I think at least, but idk I'm just a dude.