The part they didn’t include in the headline is that the cops shot the bystander in the head.
this post was submitted on 18 Sep 2024
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I automatically filled in that blank. Because, of course the cops managed to fuck up a sitiation. Not surprised.
Even if you filled in the blank, it's still important to call out cop-excusing passive voice every single time just to highlight how pervasive a problem it is.
Cracking down on fare evasion doesn't even make sense financially. Assuming those cops are making the starting salary for NYPD officers, every single cop would need to catch roughly 54 people every day, each, for them to break even on lost profits. It cant possibly be that big of an issue there.
This is a tragedy. And one that was preventable to boot.
You’re forgetting that having them posted there allows them harass certain people.
They said it's cracking down on crime within the train / subway system of which checking fares is a part. So they don't have them there to just check fares but their job is to reduce and prevent crimes and while they there they check for fares.
One guy skipped fares, he had a history of mental disorders and law violations, and their best course of action is to shoot him, and some bystanders. The fact that both officers shot the guy, with sufficient bullets fired that random bystanders can be hit. Their aim is dog shit.
I would like to add that mental issues is not an excuse to shoot.
I think it makes the shooting worse.
Tom Donlon, the city's interim police commissioner, ordered a full investigation but added: "Make no mistake, the events that occurred... were the results of an armed perpetrator".
These spineless fucks can't even admit they shot two innocent people, one in the head, for, like, $3. It's not like the guy with a KNIFE could have shot them .
They never found a knife. They claim someone picked it up and left with it in the chaos, which is obviously bullshit. "I'm gonna ignore the cops flagrantly firing into a crowd in my direction to go pick up that free knife"
Hey man, a free knife is a free knife!!!
You can get shot by the NYPD any day, but how many opportunities are you going to get for a free knife.