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Kamala Harris and Donald Trump are veering sharply in how they gear up for Tuesday’s presidential debate, setting up a showdown that reflects not just two separate visions for the country but two politicians who approach big moments very differently.

The vice president is cloistered in a historic hotel in downtown Pittsburgh where she can focus on honing crisp two-minute answers, per the debate’s rules. She’s been working with aides since Thursday and chose a venue that allows the Democratic nominee the option of mingling with swing-state voters.

Trump, the Republican nominee, publicly dismisses the value of studying for the debate. The former president is choosing instead to fill his days with campaign-related events on the premise that he’ll know what he needs to do once he steps on the debate stage at the National Constitution Center in Philadelphia.

“You can go in with all the strategy you want but you have to sort of feel it out as the debate’s taking place,” he said during a town hall with Fox News host Sean Hannity.

Trump then quoted former boxing great Mike Tyson, who said, “Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the face.”

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[–] asap@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

I would enjoy it if she brought out a large 2 minute countdown timer to start every time he starts talking.

[–] Objection@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Looking forward to the grand American tradition of having candidates accuse each other of doing good things while vehemently denying the other's slanderous accusations that they would ever do anything good.

[–] Don_alForno@feddit.org 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Preposterous! Nobody has ever accused Donald Trump of doing a good thing.

[–] Objection@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (21 children)

He gets accused of wanting to deescalate conflicts, pull out of NATO, and generally refusing to uphold the constant state of war that every single US politician wants. The fact that he isn't ideologically invested in stupid pointless conflicts is literally his only positive quality, so of course it's where a lot of criticism gets directed, in order to uphold the grand American tradition. Of course, he's not actually ideologically opposed to stupid pointless wars, so the machinery still gets to run uninterrupted, but he did at least give us an excellent roast of John Bolton, a notorious hawk.

I wish we could ever get offered a candidate who's actually as isolationist as Trump gets accused of being, but unfortunately he's not it. We got rising tensions and a trade war with China, which Biden normalized, and we got pushed to the brink of WWIII with the assassination of Soleimani, which Biden's also following up by supporting Israel's antics. Voters will never be given any sort of choice or input about such matters, and Trump is no exception, despite what people say.

[–] Don_alForno@feddit.org 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

He gets accused of wanting to deescalate conflicts, pull out of NATO, and generally refusing to uphold the constant state of war that every single US politician wants.

Just going off e.g. the stunt he pulled with moving the embassy to Jerusalem, I would say this sentence is giving him way too much benefit of the doubt.

The way see it, what he is mostly accused of is claiming to want to do those things (and most candidates would claim they wanted to "solve" e.g. the middle east conflict) but not actually having any kind of realistic idea of how to achieve any of them. Possibly besides pulling out of NATO, which, given the current state of the world, is a stretch to call this a "good thing".

Also, when it comes to stupid pointless conflicts, I think we can rest assured that he will always be invested in them on the side he believes he can personally profit off the most. Which is an ideology too if you think about it.

[–] Objection@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (18 children)

I don't think I've ever heard a politician accuse Trump of just "not having a realistic idea to achieve" isolationist goals. They attack him for having isolationist goals at all (which he doesn't actually have, really), because all of them are extreme interventionists.

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[–] irreticent@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago (3 children)

I propose we do debates, and also do roasts like on Comedy Central. The candidates get to point out eachother's flaws. That would be fun.

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[–] nifty@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

The low information voters who are still undecided will not respond to a reasonable person, they need a show of strength.

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