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[–] GlendatheGayWitch@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago

The US isn't any more concerned about sexual orientation now than any point in the past. Back in colonial times, it wouldn't have been safe to be anything other than straight with all the hyper religious colonists. They were even forcing their gender conformity and the straight sexual orientation on the Native Americans. Baron Friedrich von Steuben got a pass for being gay, probably because he was the one in charge of training the troops for Washington. 100 years ago, you could be killed on the street for being anything other than straight or denied jobs. The Lavender scare of the mid century brought this more to light. The AIDS crisis that started in the 80s and bled through into the 90s and 2000s as new medicines were being invented, further brought negative light to sexual orientations outside of straight. The cause of all of this attention to sexual orientation has been the religions brought over by colonists.

In recent years, sexual orientations outside of straight are finally being seen in a positive light with Lawrence v TX (2003) legalizing same-sex relationships and Hodges v Obergefell (2015) legalizing same-sex marriages. In Bostock v Clayton County (2020) legal protections against job discrimination based on sexual orientation and gender identity were finally put into place over 70 years after the start of the Lavender Scare.

The attention to sexual orientation has always been part of North American history. It has just changed from acceptance with the Native American peoples to hate, death, and intolerance under the colonists, to a more accepting present day. With some of the positive news in recent years, it can be easy to forget (if you're surrounded by progressives in a blue state) that the hate of sexuality injected into North America in the 15th Century still has hold over large portions of the population today.

[–] NauticalNoodle@lemmy.ml 9 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

In my 36yr life it isn't any greater or lesser of a concern than it has been before, though I'm quick to think of the euphamism-treadmill as being constantly turning.

β€”To me It seems like sexuality is easy-pickings for politicians that don't want to write legislation that benefits the lower-classes. It's a big part of the "circuses" metaphor in the phrase "bread and circuses."

[–] L0rdMathias@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 months ago (5 children)

Do you perceive this as a brand new issue in human society?

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[–] Lemjukes@lemm.ee 8 points 2 months ago (3 children)

All of a sudden? Where have you been the last 80-100 years?

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[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

The internet has given global voice to people that would otherwise only be able to bounce those ideas back and forth across the barbershop floor

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[–] s_s@lemm.ee 6 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Why are people so interested in defining themselves along sexual identity and orientation in relatively recent western culture?

Why now? Why is it so different from most of human existence?

Because we are no longer facing famine. The Green Revolution has made our relationship with food so secure we no longer define ourselves in relation to it.

Throughout most of history people are farmers or ranchers or shepherds or bakers or butchers or millers.

So, we climb the Biological hierarchy of needs looking for our next characteristic that needs fulfillment.

[–] TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

not even. 1950s we had this idealized version that everyone was heterosexual, owned a home and had strict gender roles.

That shit is now all blown apart. And for most folks the complexities of it all are beyond understanding.

And it cuts both ways. I don't care about other people's genders and identities, but boy they care about mine. Gotten plenty of sexist slurs from queer/trans people based on my gender and lots of shitty assumptions. I'm bi, but I 'present' as a heterosexual dudebro, and it makes non-gender conforming people angry at me for some reason, also many insecure straight men and women. Only people who don't seem to care are people who are bi, or secure in their sexuality. Way too many people feel the need to do that though.

[–] Silentiea@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 2 months ago (3 children)

I'd just like to say that I'm not defining myself at any point, I'm describing myself.

A trivial point, maybe, but there's still plenty of bigots around and the ones around me use phrases like "defining yourself" to minimize and erase lbgtq+ people's experiences.

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[–] Klear@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Because gay rights have more and more support so they decided to pick an easier target.

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[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 4 points 2 months ago

Identity politics resonates with brain dead public.

We got the government we deserve.

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