this post was submitted on 26 Aug 2024
116 points (100.0% liked)

Fuck Cars

9801 readers
6 users here now

This community exists as a sister community/copycat community to the r/fuckcars subreddit.

This community exists for the following reasons:

You can find the Matrix chat room for this community here.

Rules

  1. Be nice to each other. Being aggressive or inflammatory towards other users will get you banned. Name calling or obvious trolling falls under that. Hate cars, hate the system, but not people. While some drivers definitely deserve some hate, most of them didn't choose car-centric life out of free will.

  2. No bigotry or hate. Racism, transphobia, misogyny, ableism, homophobia, chauvinism, fat-shaming, body-shaming, stigmatization of people experiencing homeless or substance users, etc. are not tolerated. Don't use slurs. You can laugh at someone's fragile masculinity without associating it with their body. The correlation between car-culture and body weight is not an excuse for fat-shaming.

  3. Stay on-topic. Submissions should be on-topic to the externalities of car culture in urban development and communities globally. Posting about alternatives to cars and car culture is fine. Don't post literal car fucking.

  4. No traffic violence. Do not post depictions of traffic violence. NSFW or NSFL posts are not allowed. Gawking at crashes is not allowed. Be respectful to people who are a victim of traffic violence or otherwise traumatized by it. News articles about crashes and statistics about traffic violence are allowed. Glorifying traffic violence will get you banned.

  5. No reposts. Before sharing, check if your post isn't a repost. Reposts that add something new are fine. Reposts that are sharing content from somewhere else are fine too.

  6. No misinformation. Masks and vaccines save lives during a pandemic, climate change is real and anthropogenic - and denial of these and other established facts will get you banned. False or highly speculative titles will get your post deleted.

  7. No harassment. Posts that (may) cause harassment, dogpiling or brigading, intentionally or not, will be removed. Please do not post screenshots containing uncensored usernames. Actual harassment, dogpiling or brigading is a bannable offence.

Please report posts and comments that violate our rules.

founded 3 years ago
MODERATORS
 

More Sydney Metro photos: Gadigal (Town Hall) station to Martin Place

#train #trains #rail #railways #Sydney #Metro #Australia #urbanism @fuck_cars@lemmy.ml

all 15 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] JimmyBigSausage@lemm.ee 14 points 2 months ago

Positive and beautiful architecture helps make people want to USE it. Outside of Lemmy I guess, people want beauty in their lives. Not darkness but light.

[–] quoll@lemmy.sdf.org 8 points 2 months ago (2 children)

i dont know why we build such extravagant stations... or who convinced who to spend bank... or how treasury didnt hack the project to bits for being $10b over budget.... but absolutely zero complaints from me.

if you are going to coax the car brained out of their precious cars, public transport needs to be at least nice.

[–] AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

The space will reduce congestion (and not being squashed into a sweaty crowd in a narrow corridor is a quality of its own), and space overhead will reduce the risk of airborne viruses spreading. Also, for those prone to claustrophobia, it’s an accessibility issue.

Yes, it could have been done cheaper and smaller, if one wanted to reinforce the late-20th-century ideology that public transport is a bare-bones soup-kitchen service for those too poor to drive, in which case the money saved could be spent on cutting petrol taxes. Though thankfully we have moved on from there as a society.

[–] finley@lemm.ee 4 points 2 months ago (2 children)

It’s good to build nice stations, but hyperstylized stations like this will look weird and dated in 30-40 years.

As for the cost? Don’t be so sure that a station built this way necessarily cost too much more than some dull drum station design. 99% of the cost of underground metro stations is in digging out the thing.

[–] quoll@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 2 months ago

Not just this, other stations on line are really fancy, lots of sandstone, huge open spaces, extravagant artworks.. it's really impressive for a city that's usually pretty tacky.

Ya I think most of the budget issues are tunneling related.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

but hyperstylized stations like this will look weird and dated in 30-40 years.

Yeah, but if they survive another few decades after that without being torn down / remodeled, they graduate to historic and become cool again.

The key is to not let the the public get a hold of them in that interim period when everybody thinks they suck (looking at you, brutalism).


Personally, I'm a fan of the style of the 1970s-1980s era metro stations in my city and (unlike the transit authority) don't think they need to be renovated.

[–] finley@lemm.ee 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

Yeah, but if they survive another few decades after that without being torn down / remodeled, they graduate to historic and become cool again.

Maybe, maybe not. The TWA terminal at JFK - and exemplar or mid-60s modernism - is an eyesore.

And Brutalism, to many, was always an eyesore.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

The TWA terminal at JFK - and exemplar or mid-60s modernism - is an eyesore.

What? Why? I've never been there in person, but I'm looking at pictures of it and I like it.

(I will admit it doesn't look very ADA-compliant, though.)

[–] Cheradenine@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 months ago

The Futurist one designed by Eero Saarinen? That has certainly survived the test of time.

[–] DemBoSain@midwest.social 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

First time in Sydney. Passed through the Museum stop earlier today and the ads caught my eye. Very Fallout-ish.

[–] finley@lemm.ee 4 points 2 months ago

Get your Nuka Quantum today!

[–] AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space 3 points 2 months ago

That looks great. It reminds me of London Crossrail.

[–] ozdreaming@infosec.exchange 1 points 2 months ago

@ajsadauskas @fuck_cars I adore the artwork. Callum Morton also recently designed some other cool tile art on back entrances on several Sydney CBD laneways. https://www.monash.edu/mada/news/2024/in-through-the-out-door-transforms-sydney-laneways

[–] Sotuanduso@lemm.ee 1 points 2 months ago

Ah, yeah, nah, this whole thing is a circle. But not a real circle, more like a freaky circle.