may I ask why? Different hardware is designed for different tasks, and using even a Linux phone will beat out most laptops for energy efficiency to make the same call using the same apps
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I'm only using hardware that allows the Intel Management Engine to be fully disabled (e.g., ThinkPad X200, T400, etc.).
The PinePhone seems nice, but its firmware cannot be freed to the same extent as that of one of the older ThinkPads.
The reason why is because I want to escape from non-free software.
How about Purism Librem 5?
PS: I do have a PinePhone and PinePhone Pro, used both with a USB-C adapter to have screen, mouse and keyboard and was a quite convenient solution but I understand that some of the firmware limitations might go against your goal. I hope they'll be fully open if they do a newer model.
I was just about to say: "Yeah, I don't need a desktop" and then I read what you said. I can see myself going to a "dumbphone" aka a phone-only phone, but this is a bit too much for me tbh.
Unfortunately, I can't go that route. I use many different phone numbers through Pidgin, so I don't think the flip phone would do.
You'd be surprised what a feature phone can do nowadays
It is convient, but I'm trying to avoid using proprietary software as much as possible. Those phones tend to use proprietary operating systems. Thanks for the suggestion though!
Have you thought about going with a Pixel and Loading GrapheneOS on it? It degoogles the pixel
There are non-propietary versions of android, I use /e/OS for example. Try searching for de googled android if you wanna find out more.
Oh, I already use GrapheneOS on my Pixel; it's a nice experience, but at the same time, it's not enough for me. The firmware isn't free, and I don't like the fact that it can still spy on me to some extent. I also just don't want to use my phone; I find myself to be a lot more productive with a laptop.
How do I use a laptop for navigation when walking around the city?
A map, like a printed map that most touristic office give away for free? Same for public transport?
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If you're trying a less "smart" phone experience, just buy a dumb phone. They still exist. Phones are needed for emergencies.
Unfortunately, the flip phone route for doing daily calls/texts won't work because I use multiple phone numbers, and those phones have proprietary operating systems/firmware. Though, I still keep one in a Faraday bag if needed for emergencies.
I know a guy who doesn't have a phone. Trying to get in touch with him is a PITA.
Does he not have email?
You can get in touch with him eventually, but not for anything urgent. For example, I had to rescue his mom when she lost her car key because she couldn't get in touch with him to help her.
How did you get pigeon to make calls/texts?
I signed into my JMP.chat account via XMPP on Pidgin. I can make calls and texts just fine.
Edit: Pidgin (installed from Trisquel repos) can be used for texting, but as of right now, calling seems to be bugged. I'm currently using Dino (installed from Trisquel repos), both calling/texting work fine on there.
nice!
What will you do if that domain goes down, blocks you, or simply disappears?
Not sure. Do you have any suggestions? I have my own domain name and VPS, I could possibly self-host. (Currently, I'm using snikket.chat)
No, not at all. They both are made for different purposes.
O wise teacher, are you able to get OTPs for services that require phone numbers with this solution?
I have a phone but no SIM, and I can't use a lot of the Internet because soooo many services require a phone number. How much do you pay for this per year?
Yes. I have multiple accounts attached to my phone number and I'm able to receive OTPs from all of them (banking, shopping, etc.)
I use my carrier (e.g. Verizon) for service, and pay jmp.chat $5/month for my phone number.
I don't understand why you pay Verizon. Would it work over WiFi?
I meant Verizon for service on my phone and then have JMP.chat number for making calls/text. I don't use the phone number that's given from Verizon, I use the JMP.chat number instead. <---- This is my setup for my phone, not my laptop. JMP.chat works just fine over WiFi. Sorry for the misunderstanding.
For getting service on my laptop though, I use a USB modem that's connected to my LibreCMC router. I travel around with the router/modem in my backpack. The LibreCMC router doesn't need an outlet, it can be turned on by connecting it via USB to my laptop.
Huh, their front page says their service doesn't support SMS?
It says this on their front-page:
"Note: While JMP does provide phone numbers and voice/SMS features, it does not provide 911, 112, 999 or other emergency services over voice or SMS."
I don't have any suggestions, but this is incredibly impressive. I haven't heard of jmp.chat before, but it sounds like you can create multiple identities using different phone numbers - is that correct?
If so, that sounds amazing. I really hate how the modern world is trying to force people into a singular identity online, and the way that they're using phone numbers to do it. This sounds like it could be a pretty decent method to avoid that.
Yes, you can create multiple accounts and get all text/call notifications in one app. I recommend you use the Cheogram app for phone or Dino-IM for PC.
No, not suitable at all. I would be more interested in using my phone with GrapheneOS as only device.
But:
- mail filters work fine with my provider, not in K-9mail (fair-email gives me anxiety)
- office stuff just sucks, Collabora is as big as Libreoffice but no GUI options
- MPV is very barebones and VLC very far behind on updates
- missing GIMP
- missing PDF editing
- missing video or audio editing
- missing code editing
- missing commandline stuff
- no qbittorrent, Aria2 works but only for leeching, BiglyBT works but has a weird UI and restricted features
- no browser with tab groups, containers, security, etc.
But for a ton of other stuff a phone works very well
- obvious one: small form factor
- uses very little battery, awesome standby battery consumption
- camera, audio, video recording
- media consumption
- offline (MPV, Gallery apps (why is this not a thing on desktops?), music players, antennapod)
- online: grayjay, soundbound, antennapod, rimusic, ...
- messaging (simplex, signal, element, briar, ...)
- slight image editing (snapseed)
- image compression (signal, save before sending, exit)
- video cutting (signal, save before sending)
- writing markdown (markor, acode)
- weather
- webapps
- social media (jerboah, fedilab, ...)
- navigating (there is no OSMAnd alternative on Linux)
In many areas there are way more apps for android, in many others way less.
No osm and on Linux?
Its just open street map data. Use the routing tool on their web page.
Or make your own if you want to using gis.
Or use the beta organic maps flatpak.
Or KDE Marble has OSM routing as well.
Yeah lemmie just pull out my laptop real quick outside this pub to find how to get back to my hotel.
Aaaaand its gone
Why didn't you take the laptop out while you were still inside the pub? And typically wouldn't you use directions to get to the pub, and getting back is just going the way you came?
Because I was drunk and forgot my way
Ask the barman the direction to the closest landmark? Grab a cab? Get a map from the hotel itself?
I understand that walking around with a laptop isn't for most but trying to think like OP here, I want to suggest that for their goal, habits can change. They are plenty of good solution beside a mobile phone to be able to get around.
Just pay a taxi driver LOL are you rich or something ? XD
Back to paper maps with arbitrary POIs?
With OSMand I can easily contribute to OSM too, add and edit POIs mainly.
damn a lot of nice things! Organic maps I tried, it is not at all comparable.
OSMAnd does way more than routing, but I will have a look at their website, couldnt find it in the past.
Didnt know that Marble has routing!
Or even waydroid if you must have the app
I have a friend who’s never gotten a cell phone. Computer science PhD candidate. At this point I think he’s avoided it as we seem to be coming out the other side. He rocks a MacBook pro and uses Google voice. It’s possible…
I did this when traveling internationally in 2009. I used Skype-in to forward my USA phone number to my Skype account, but I think I made like 3 phone calls. I only used WiFi at cafes and hotels, no mobile internet service. Phones are overrated. Being offline is great.
I have "mained" a Lenovo Thinkpad X1 Extreme running Pop!_OS for over two years now. I run a company and interact with clients all the time, so I'm not just browsing PornHub all day. My Thinkpad has not let me down yet.
I have a Mac for my music production and graphic design hobbies, but only because I own software for it that only supports Mac or Windows. That said, I rarely use it since Bitwig and Renoise run on Linux. I'll only boot the Mac if I need some plug-in or Abelton. All that's happened is that I have slowly started to gravitate towards DAW-less production.
How does DAW-less production work? No editing?
Old school. You do all your work on hardware sequencers, trackers, drum machines, synths, etc.