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Sorry for the delay for the weekly. Server's not that stable right now, maybe we should start the thread on Sundays instead.

I always like to switch things up once in a while because it's fun. So, let's get back to the brand discussion this week for the Google Pixel. We'll do a discussion on repairability next week. Again, ideas are always welcome here.

I've never used a Pixel, but people around here should know that I've been very critical of Google's product decisions over the years, and the Pixel is no exception. In my point of view, discontinuing the Nexus series, buying out the talents from the remains of HTC and starting an official "made by Google" phone is the equivalent of reddit buying out Alien Blue to make the official reddit app. I think it's the event that scared big Android manufacturers like Samsung enough to start making their own ecosystem away from Google, as they are concerned that Google may start locking software features to their own phones instead of improving Android overall (rightfully so, I might add).

It really makes no business sense at all to turn your manufacturing partners into your competitors, but then again, it's Google.

With that being said, the first years of the Pixels has been marred with growing pains. Whereas the Nexus line has always been barebones, no frills development devices, it seemed to me that the people who made Pixels don't even use Android and are insistent on turning Pixel into iPhones, removing the headphone jack on the Pixel 2 despite the antagonistic ad from the original Pixel, Pixel exclusive software features like Google camera that necessitating the need of rom mods, as well as the quality issues that seems to be inherited from the Nexus days just really soured me from considering Pixels, as I think it's against the spirit of openness that made Android great.

But it seems like in recent years, they finally figured out that a large percentage of people who bought Androids not because they can't afford iPhones, but because they like Android, and I see the introduction of the "a" series as progress. The recent Pixel ad campaign also made me think that they finally figuring it out: people want different things, trying to turn Android into worse versions of iPhones was not going to work, so they should be trying to make the best Android for Android users instead.

(It's also the reason I think all the previous reddit clones failed, but Lemmy will be the one that finally succeeds.)

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[–] bigschnitz@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

They used to be fantastic, but for various reasons Google have been reducing the quality of their products for some time.

The android 12 update really hurt the UI/UX by limiting customization, adding big obnoxious qs tiles that obstruct notifications for no reason (that I am constantly activating by accident), removing the wifi toggle and wasting home screen real estate with an 'at a glance' widget that isn't useful (it's like a wish.com version of Google now), you need a custom default program manager to let it open search results in browser without pushing shit apps (like reddit official). Also wasn't the point of pure android to avoid bloatware? Why am I carrying google TV, YouTube, wallet, Google money, fit, Google one, gpay, ~~spy~~ assistant, lens, meet etc?

As bad as the recent software direction is, the hardware is worse. My pixel 7 pro new has worse battery life than my pixel 5 had after 2 years of constant use, it overheats and throttles doing basic tasks (like maps), the glass back is among the most slippery things I've ever touched, the curved screen has an infuriating glare persistent no matter how you hold it, the fingerprint sensor is unreliable and in an awkward place, there's no capacitive gesture to drop notifications shade and "double tap" gesture meant to replace it flat out doesn't work. The charging is super slow, the curved screen follows the curved screen trend of breaking easily, all phones in the current line up are too large to use comfortably with one hand, they deleted the headphone jack to sell shit earbuds (yes that was ages ago but it's still stupid).

All in, I'd trade my pixel 7 pro in for a gen 5 model or earlier in a heartbeat. Been a long time Google/nexus user but however good the old phones were, my next phone won't have a tensor!

[–] Kangy@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I swapped to a Pixel 7 Pro from a Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra after having serious stutter and performance issues with my S22.so far I've loved it and it's performed so much better than the S22 I had.

I do miss the customisation Samsung had with Good Lock modules though. Maybe I'll have to look into rooting my phone unless I can find a no root alternative.

Long story short it's been around 6 months and I'm still very happy with it.

[–] techgearwhips@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I haven't had a Samsung device since the S7 TouchWiz days. You're telling me there's still lag in the spec'd out top end devices all these years later?

[–] Kangy@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There was on mine at least. It would overheat if on an extended video call and shut down all running apps until it was cool again. Sent it off to Samsung who replaced the main board (which I assume is the one that has the CPU ram and GPU attached) but the issues still persisted. My S22 ultra performed worse that my Note 10+ 5G.

To say I was disappointed in the performance is a drastic understatement considering the price of the phone

[–] techgearwhips@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The fingerprint sensor on my P6 was trash. Then somehow when I upgraded to the P7 with that Best Buy deal... The fingerprint sensor was even worse. Deal breaker for me. The only reason I'm not using a Pixel device right now.

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[–] jmsy@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I only had Nexus or Pixel (Nexus 2, Nexus 5x, Pixel 2, Pixel 4) phones for about 10 years. The clean interface, and supreme photo quality was great, but they always seemed to have some sort of hardware error and shitty battery life. I switched to a GalaxyS20FE and realized bloatware (at least in the samsung case) is minimal and easy to hide. My next phone will either be a samsung or pixel. It depends on price and reviews.

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[–] dallo@lemmy.kiois.net 2 points 1 year ago

Dont care for them. My Fairphone is made from fair components and 100% ungoogled.

[–] pingveno@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

I've had a positive experience overall. I have had the Pixel 2 and now 5 on Google Fi. It's nice to have a phone that is close to stock Android. My bone to pick until the Pixel 6 was a short support life at just three years. Now it has security updates until five years, which is less than I would like but much more acceptable. When my phone's security support life ends in October, I am planning on a new Pixel. I'll still take a look at my other options, though.

Overall, I've been very impressed with the camera, including some very challenging lighting scenes. I have a few photos up on Wikipedia that are just me popping out my cell phone and taking a well framed shot.

[–] aleph@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

If they had Samsung's hardware reliability and breadth of customization, they'd be perfect.

[–] Shikadi@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 year ago

I feel like I have no other option. iPhones are better in principle, but the interface is awful. No back button alone is already a complete deal breaker for me. Samsung is bloatware, OnePlus is foreign spyware on top of Google's spyware.

[–] Horsey@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

The number one thing for me with a phone is specs, and the pixel phones just don’t have the top tier benchmarks so I’ll never even consider them. They’re not competing heavily enough with Samsung and Apple. Look at their pixel watch and how absolute trash that thing is (huge bezel, too small screen, bad battery life, bad fitness integration). I’ve said this to death here too btw: I hate that their software is so flat looking.

[–] CCatMan@lemmy.one 1 points 1 year ago

I may get hate for this, but pixel phones work easiest for my parents. I make sure they are using similar generation pixels and they real never have any issues.

If they can use the pixel 6 and 6a without issues, I'm convinced Google is doing some good in this world.

I've got a 7 and my partner has a 6 Pro. No issues except the occasional phone not charging, but the issue seems to be less now a days.

[–] Pixel@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 year ago

They are known to die randomly, as mine has. So I'm cautious about jumping in again, sadly

[–] synceDD@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Theres gcam so 0 reasons to buy

Downvotes lol thanks for keeping competition alive pixel pals 😜😜😜

[–] Bianca_0089@lemmy.today 0 points 1 year ago (3 children)

A family member has one, nobody else does. Something we all notice is that a lot of our text messages fail to deliver to that one specific family member. Are they unreliable for texting?

[–] Nevermore9197@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

My pixel 6a seems to be struggling with that, mostly due to that new style of messengering. I can't remember now what it's called. But disabling it and switching back to just SMS remedies it.

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[–] BubblyMango@lemmy.wtf -2 points 1 year ago (6 children)

I like pixel from a price to hardware performance ratio, but fuck the software side. Need a custom launcher coz the official one forces google calender to cover a whole line in your homescreen, and google search takes up a whole line on EVERY PAGE ON YOUR APPS HOME (why the bloody hell do i need this google search icon? It opens up some weird browser that is even worse than chrome). A million and one google product "suggestions" are being thrown at you for the first month of usage, official music app is youtube music, so literally everytime you open ot you need to tell it "yes im sure i want to use my offline music and not subscribe to youtube music", the customizable shortcuts are basically "this can either activate google assistent or do nothing", the worst 3 button navigation bar i have ever seen - You cant even swap the back button from left to right and jt hides itself at random occasions, evetytime you open your SMS you need to tell it you dont want to use google's weird internet based sms feature (yes, it never stops suggesting it until you agree, 6 months already). The automatic adjustable brightness is terrible and already blinded me randomly when i tried to browse the internet before going to bed, the automatic screen wqkeup is junky at best, it has a weird feature that every time you.lay your phone over the screen it locks with no way to turn that off. Call recording apps barely work, closing all open apps it purposely innefficient (you have to scroll all the way left instead of it being immediatly available), the permission option of "ask every time" is broken because every third time it stops asking you to enable it and you have to enable the permission constantly and later remove it again.

Fuck google's OSes.

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