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A government minister said she has scaled back her use of social media platform X, arguing it had become “a bit despotic” and was “a place of misery now”.

Jess Phillips, the minister for safeguarding and violence against women and girls, said although she had previously been “massively addicted to Twitter”, referencing the former name of X, she had removed the app from her phone after Elon Musk took over the company in October 2022.

She spoke out in the wake of a rift between Keir Starmer and Musk with the social media tycoon calling the prime minister “two-tier Keir” as he posted a series of images, videos and memes related to the recent rioting in the UK and suggested not all communities are “protected in Britain”.

He also branded the Labour leader a “hypocrite” over his approach to policing, a row which was ignited after the prime minister criticised social media companies for allowing the spread of misinformation that the Southport stabbings suspect was an asylum seeker which culminated in the far-right led disorder.

Downing Street previously criticised Musk for tweeting that “civil war is inevitable” in the UK, with Starmer’s official spokesperson insisting there was “no justification for comments like that”.

Speaking at the Edinburgh festival fringe on Saturday, Phillips said of the social media platform: “Fundamentally for me now I think that I am sort of done with it, I don’t wish to fish in that particular pond any more.”

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The Labour MP for Birmingham Yardley added: “The only power we now have over what is becoming a bit despotic is that we opt out of it, you vote with your feet in this instance rather than pen and paper.”

Asked by host Matthew Stadlen if she would encourage people to quit the site, she said that would be “too dramatic”.

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The comments follow Phillips sharing her concerns about the impact of social media companies more generally.

The Labour MP said while Musk had “every right” to express his views on British politics as a private citizen, “as a commercial citizen, who literally can control the way we see different things, you are getting into a more dangerous area”.

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[–] psycho_driver@lemmy.world 25 points 3 months ago (2 children)

"Scaling back use" won't be the change that is needed. That's like "scaling back my heroine addiction" to get better.

[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 12 points 3 months ago

Ironically... weaning yourself off heroin is actually the best way to quit heroin.

[–] Emperor@feddit.uk 10 points 3 months ago

She's deleted the app but, as part of her duties, there are likely going to be things she has to look at on there. Like trying to quit DMT but occasionally having to commune with the machine elves.

[–] AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space 22 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The UK has a government digital service that runs official websites and infrastructure. They could do what Germany, Switzerland, the Netherlands and the EU have done and set up an official UK government ActivityPub server, creating accounts for all UK government department Xitter/Facebook/Instagram accounts and offering accounts to MPs and public officials.

[–] wewbull@feddit.uk 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)

This.

  1. It separates official communication and personal communication, just like a work email address does.

  2. It allows the Government Digital Services department implement centralised archival, abuse filtering.

  3. It removes the platform from people who are no longer members of parliament.

[–] nickb333@fedia.io 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I fail to understand how they ever ended up there in the first place. Maybe it makes sense for businesses but why put government stuff there when ultimately they may be subject to moderation at someone else's whim.

Add the past government's use of WhatsApp to this too so they can't conveniently lose data when a device is replaced.

[–] wewbull@feddit.uk 1 points 3 months ago

...because politicians just see a way to market themselves, and while most of us have corporate IT departments to reign us in to company communication policy, no such thing exists for them.

[–] Emperor@feddit.uk 19 points 3 months ago

If only all MPs would quit Xitter.

[–] mannycalavera@feddit.uk 11 points 3 months ago

I understand they're going for reach and, ultimately, that is what matters to them. But as Jess admits the reach they're achieving is largely to scummy cunts.

I don't get why the government doesn't invest in it's own Mastodon instance like some of the EU institutions have as a way to counter this?

[–] TehWorld@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I try my damndest not to click on any links that lead there, let alone USE the service. I’m sure I’m still counted as a user to their advertising metrics but no.

[–] wewbull@feddit.uk 1 points 3 months ago

Put it in a block list in your home network. I've done that for some "newspapers" (Sun, Daily Mail) so if I get clickbaited without realising where I'm going it doesn't work.