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This is the first I've heard of it, but here's one of his infamous quotes:

"There is a trait in the Jewish character that does provoke animosity, maybe it’s a kind of lack of generosity towards non-Jews.

I mean, there’s always a reason why anti-anything crops up anywhere; even a stinker like Hitler didn’t just pick on them for no reason.”

His other quotes tend to be condemnation about specifically Israeli zionism and barbaric murder, but i don't have context as to whether he's referring to palestine or not. Some people might have more sympathy for these statements these days, but a lot of his other quotes have to do with Jews controlling money and media, less defensible prejudice.

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[–] cashmaggot@piefed.social 4 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I heard something like this on...Reddit? Maybe. A while ago. They said something akin to while Dahl was racist he didn't let it encroach upon his writting like Lovecraft. I don't really read Lovecraft (haven't since a long, long time ago) but I do have a compillation of Dahl's writings. And I liked them. Didn't feel put off by them, outside of the fact that he can write some gross stuff. I am not sure what else to say on the subject other than it stinks.

[–] hitmyspot@aussie.zone 2 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I loved his books as a child. As an adult I read them to my kids and I'm strick by a lot of inappropriate language, normal for the time. Racism, fat shaming, child abuse.

Its problematic, and if I was black, I dont know that I'd be comfortable reading descriptions of oompa loompas to my child in a world full of racists. It made me wonder if I should not have read it to munchokd, who would not understand the stereotypes used, nor the allegory to slavery.

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[–] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I know lovecraft was racist in his personal writings, but I can't recall any specific exams of it inside his fiction.

He wrote so many stories, I would guess it must have somewhere, but I don't remember any and I've read almost all of lovecraft.

I should fill in the gaps with Lovecraft actually and finish the rest of it.

That's great you got a collection of Roald Dahl, I've definitely read all of his books multiple times, they are great.

I don't see evidence of racism inside Dahl's works either, except for like the oompa loompa is coming from Africa, being African pygmies?

[–] whoisearth@lemmy.ca 5 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

I know lovecraft was racist in his personal writings, but I can't recall any specific exams of it inside his fiction.

The glaring example."The Rats in The Walls" had a cat called "removed Man".

And of course admins censor the N word. Jesus Christ this world we live in is fucking scuffed.

[–] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 months ago (4 children)

Ah, thanks, I'll look at that

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[–] solsangraal@lemmy.zip 1 points 3 months ago (30 children)
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