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Warning 1337 no longer safe, Baldur's Gate 3 infected with Miner, refused to be taken down, possibly linked with admins. (www.reddit.com)

submitted 1 year ago by alphacyberranger@lemmy.world to c/crackwatch@lemmy.dbzer0.com

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1337x admins allowing BG3 torrent with bitcoin miner stand after multiple reports in comments with proof, seems like the site lost it's credibility. Suspicious that the user is also shilling to donate to 1337x, suspecting him being somehow affiliated with 1337x mods

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[–] thantik@lemmy.world 79 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I'm not against pirating, but given how long it's taken to crack some of the stuff I was waiting for, and watching things drop to like $10 from a $60 title after a year or two, now I just perpetually wait 2 years until I buy any game. Pirating movies, music, and other 'consumables'...great. Pirating executable content, no fucking thank you. I learned that lesson as a teenager, and I'm not going to put my computer at risk in that way any longer.

Just too many hoops to jump through to maintain a secure PC when pirating games/applications. Anyone who thought 1337 was "safe" to begin with, is fucking stupid.

[+] sudoshakes@reddthat.com -53 points 1 year ago (4 children)

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[–] thantik@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Many games, etc detect being launched from within a virtual machine and will refuse to run. I already run Proxmox here at home with plenty of virtual machines for various services like jellyfin. I've unlocked my 3080 to do proper hardware GPU passthrough and partitioning and even normal...non-pirated games will refuse to run in a VM.

[–] Rabbit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago

I don't remember what program, but I remember coming across some people who didn't feel comfortable giving games like Valorant and Genshin Impact kernel level access so ran it on what they called bare metal or something running it off another drive. Maybe it was Ventoy?

Have wondered if a dedicated drive for just pirated software and games would help keep the main system safer with how cheap ssds have gotten. Maybe a way to run it off an external ssd while blocking off access to other storage that doesn't have pirated content?

[+] sudoshakes@reddthat.com -11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

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[–] thantik@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Okay, was that supposed to prove a point or something?

[+] sudoshakes@reddthat.com 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

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[–] thantik@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The problem is that it doesn't. You running this one game that works, doesn't account for the huge library of games that don't run in that manner. It doesn't invalidate my point that spinning up VMs just so you can pirate games is a lot of bullshit to go through just to pirate a game that's gonna be $10, 6 months from now.

[–] 520@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

I mean, I get what you're saying, and yeah in your scenario it doesn't make sense. There are some people for who piracy is much more necessary

[–] yokonzo@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I dunno man, you made a point, he countered your point, and you got defensive and doubled down, sounds like the discussion is over

[–] thantik@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

That's...what discussions are... point, counterpoint, point, counterpoint, growth of opinion, why would the discussion stop just because we might disagree? We can continue refining our arguments and both grow from the discussion. Why the hell are people on Lemmy so...weird? I've got so many of these discussions where people just devolve into name calling or accusatory statements instead of just...being normal. Don't you guys like to actually have people with different views challenge your opinion so that you can think about it more, refine, and have a chance to change that opinion? Have you been so neglected in life that you don't know what a normal discussion between people is like?

[–] Koog@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 year ago

I dunno but me personally I love to play devils advocate even if I don't necessarily agree with what I'm saying 100% just for the sake of being able to hash it out with somebody other than my self.

[–] yokonzo@lemmy.world -4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I’m saying that it seems like you’re shutting down rather than having a calm discussion, you absolutely seem like the weird one here bud

[–] thantik@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

You see?

I've got so many of these discussions where people just devolve into name calling or accusatory statements

You are a prime example. The reply you are referring to is nothing but a calm reply to the person who countered my original statement. He mentioned one game and my reply just points out...there's more than one game and his "point" only works in a narrow set of circumstances. Nobody is "shutting down" as you claim, I simply replied with a counter point.

[–] AnonTwo@kbin.social -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

But he brought up a good point...the game in question that this discussion is about does not have the VM issues you were talking about.

Plus based on your information at the start of the discussion about having GPU passthrough setup, it doesn't sound like you actually have a lot of setup to do in order to have tried this out, which sort of also works against the argument of it being too much of a hassle for a game that will be cheaper down the line.

It really does seem more like doubling down than anything else. The discussion didn't have any real point to keep going past "Doesn't apply in this case"

Like you can argue that it affects other games, but you just completely dropped the point that the present discussion it does not apply to, like no acknowledgement whatsoever.

[–] thantik@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The present discussion was in direct reply to my own, which was not about any specific game as you claim. It was about game piracy in general. His original reply to me was started as an insult. From his insult, I replied calmly that I was speaking in a broader sense. Are you not following clearly or something?

The argument I've made, but somehow seems to have flown right over everyone's heads (well, not everyone, just these weird few trying to start a fight?) is that spinning up VMs for game piracy is A: A bit much, because of the nature of the executables. You waste the overhead of another entire OS, plus the game, in an environment that isn't as condusive to performance. B: Limited only to games which don't have any kind of anticheat component, DRM, etc.

And while I can set this up pretty easily, I can easily surmise that there's a smaller and smaller portion of people who have the technical know how to do such things the more complex you've gotta set up the software in order to remain secure. It's easy for me to setup a VM. It's still far less than optimal to spin up a fresh environment for a game every time I want to play something new, hence calling it bullshit. Because it is. It's bullshit that I've gotta do that I otherwise wouldn't need to in order to remain secure.

[–] Hogger85b@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

With a miner for a game with online content then virtual machine doesn't save you. It may keep.your data safe but still uses your resources for mining.

[–] Rabbit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 year ago

So people run games through a Virtual Machine? I haven't pirated PC games due to not trusting them, so have been curious the steps people take to avoid situations like what occurred. Have wondered if some people have a dedicated PC for just pirated games, or at the very least run it off an external drive.

[–] CorrodedCranium@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 1 year ago

Did they say donate to 1337x or donate to 1337x followed by a link? If it's the latter it might be to trick people into donating to an individual.

I'd be hesitant to think that's how 1337x mods would get a few extra dollars.

[–] RonnyZittledong@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I have never even heard of this group but I play everything through wine on Linux so if you compromise my weird setup fair play I guess

[–] WeebLife@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I hope fitgirls release isnt from 1337x.

[–] Selmafudd@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

All her non emulator shit is off cs.rin.ru

[–] WeebLife@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Sweet

[–] GataZapata@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

Is ovagames/ el amigos safe?

[–] DivisionResult@lemmy.dbzer0.com -3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

a say it this way im not an expert on torrent comunities, in reddit there's a lot of shit saying.

I u have win PC:

AV for movies mp3 shows not programs
there is a free utility that's called file in Linux, it detects via file headers the file so make a scrip to mail you when you have any exe in your movie's folder (check openai for this)
maintain your software updated, get informed via RSS asap new versions arrive (mitigate vulnerabilities) +. Update your OS,be aware for msft mayor update releases, the second Tuesday of every month
For programs use a vm to check if they are safe. Check out/in connections ,registry changes, google for more. Not share clipboard an folder should be read only

Safe pirating