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[–] MrJameGumb@lemmy.world 87 points 5 months ago (5 children)

That poor baby is going to end up getting raised in secret in the basement or something... Why do these people have to make their kids suffer for this nonsense? Even if that kid has a quasi normal childhood, having no SSN means they won't be able to do almost anything as an adult

[–] EleventhHour@lemmy.world 40 points 5 months ago (1 children)

This is what happens to children of people with untreated severe mental illness

[–] harrys_balzac@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

It's possible that they are just that stupid and selfish.

[–] EleventhHour@lemmy.world 13 points 5 months ago

When it goes to such an extreme that it negatively affects your life like this, it’s a disorder

[–] TheFriar@lemm.ee 12 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Also, don’t they believe the government sets aside millions of dollars for every child born that the child supposedly would have access to? By their own logic, aren’t they just depriving their children of millions of dollars they would eventually be able to withdraw from using magic words?

[–] MrJameGumb@lemmy.world 9 points 5 months ago (1 children)

If there were millions of dollars earmarked for me since birth, I assure you I would have found it and probably spent it by now lol

[–] TheFriar@lemm.ee 10 points 5 months ago

Yeah it’s clear they don’t realize how little $3m is in terms of lifetime funds, but also just how much $3m x 331,449,281 people is.

[–] frustrated_phagocytosis@fedia.io 9 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I started needing my SSN card in elementary school so I could have a savings account at a bank instead of like burying money in the yard. Can you even get health insurance without SSN?

[–] MrJameGumb@lemmy.world 14 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I don't even think you can get a job without an SSN anymore unless it's some kind of cash only under the table deal lol

[–] Riven@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 5 months ago

I know ITINumbers are a thing for people who can't get a SSN to help with taxes. I have no idea if a US born person without documents can get one though.

[–] match@pawb.social 8 points 5 months ago

the baby will be lucky if they grow up at all

[–] candybrie@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago

I think the lack of birth certificate is the bigger problem. There are in place processes for getting a social security number as an adult. I don't know about birth certificates though.

[–] You_are_dust@lemm.ee 71 points 5 months ago (2 children)

If you're trying to not exist in the eyes of the government, why use the systems that are in place by the government? Shouldn't this person be hiding in a cargo hold to travel outside of the country? If you're evading the government, you gotta go all in.

[–] blinks6517@lemmy.world 10 points 5 months ago

This guy gets it.

[–] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 4 months ago

sovcits are caught in the trap of magical thinking, if they just perform the correct rituals and cite the correct incantations they will somehow be able to make happen whatever is convenient to them.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 40 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] AmidFuror@fedia.io 14 points 5 months ago

If I leave here tomorrow Would the government still track me?

[–] neidu2@feddit.nl 39 points 5 months ago

I'm sure this won't cause any problems for the kid in the future, and that their relationship with the parents will be just fine.

[–] Nougat@fedia.io 23 points 5 months ago

"I want a legal document for a person who has zero legal documents, and from the perspective of the office I want the legal document from, doesn't even exist."

[–] Th4tGuyII@fedia.io 15 points 5 months ago

Well that kid's going to have a fun time as an adult when they realise the government basically doesn't know they exist

[–] dogsnest@lemmy.world 13 points 5 months ago

Have they recommended adoption?

[–] NeptuneOrbit@lemmy.world 11 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Maybe I have never understood to the actual/literal meaning of run around.

Per the googles it means awkward or evasive responses. But a literal interpretation might mean "they kept telling us to talk to different people, research different issues, jump through hoops and then they move the goal post".

[–] ccunning@lemmy.world 11 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Per the googles it means awkward or evasive responses. But a literal interpretation might mean "they kept telling us to talk to different people, research different issues, jump through hoops and then they move the goal post".

I’d say either works, but both in combination for the ultimate runaround.

[–] NeptuneOrbit@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

But what does this person really mean?

[–] daikiki@lemmy.world 17 points 5 months ago (1 children)

What they probably mean is they're trying to get a passport for their child and the passport office has told them that that's no problem at all. In fact, all they need is a copy of the child's birth certificate.

[–] NeptuneOrbit@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago

How dare they

Freebirths? More like Dark Caste dezgra nonsense

[–] Trigger2_2000@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 months ago

Absolutely! Get (or remove) documents from a government you don't believe exists. /s

Can't beat logic like that with a stick! I realize sovcits want it both ways 😞.