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[–] Stalinwolf@lemmy.ca 69 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (22 children)

Should be a one-way ticket back to Syria. I immigrated here from America seven years ago, blend in seamlessly with the populace, and I still wouldn't fuck with a Canadian in fear of being deported (I'm also not an asshole). It's an absolute privilege to be here and I love this country. It's crazy to me that anyone else would have the opportunity to come here and then squander it by beating the shit out of a peaceful lesbian couple who are trying to enjoy their night. How incredibly brazen.

[–] Thelemmybud@lemmy.world 21 points 4 months ago (5 children)

We need to focus on proportional representation to keep the conservatives from enabling these kind of thugs.

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[–] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 11 points 4 months ago (4 children)

Where did it mention Syria?

[–] VirtualOdour@sh.itjust.works 21 points 4 months ago (2 children)

From a different article;

She said the group appeared to be of Middle Eastern descent, possibly from Syria, and estimated they were aged 18-25.

https://metro.co.uk/2024/07/02/lesbian-couple-beaten-gang-homophobic-attack-birthday-night-21142932/

It's not comfortable but stories like this are exactly why the right is gaining popularity and if the left continues to pretend not to see them and act like this then of course people aren't going to take us seriously.

We need articles to give us facts and talking heads to explain what's being done and what the big plan is to make sure that letting in large quantities of immigrants in doesn't have negative consequences for regular people.

If we act like we've never heard of such things while they are listing distressing examples then the average undecided is going to be swayed their way. As an idealist I wish the world had no boarders, we don't live in that world and i cant force the.world into it by ignoring reality. all the European countries going right have the same big reason for the shift, we can't go on pretending that if we ignore people's concerns and real problems that everyone else will ignore them too.

[–] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 14 points 4 months ago (9 children)

The "Right" harps on the fact that they are Syrians to somehow paint all Syrians, all Muslims, all immigrants with the same brush, stoking fears of population replacement and other such bullshit.

The "Left" says that we have already laws for mob violence, apply them. Bad people who are Syrians exist just like bad people who are Italians exist and just like bad people who are Americans exist and bad people who are Canadians exist. There is zero reason to weaponize the bad behaviour of those bad people to enact discriminatory policies against an entire community. Just apply the existing law. Persecute these assholes for the homophobic hate crime they did. Why is that not enough? In fact, the only people who would say this would not be enough are people with a hate agenda of their own, i.e., the far right..

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[–] FireRetardant@lemmy.world 10 points 4 months ago

If you track down the original posts by the victims they have more details about the attack.

[–] Stalinwolf@lemmy.ca 4 points 4 months ago

Ah, I saw this posted in two seperate places, and the first instance stated they were from Syria. I thought this was the same article.

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[–] RandomGuy79@lemmy.world 33 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Unsurprising. A group of Syrian men pepper sprayed my daughters LGBT flag and lit my porch on fire trying to burn it. Police couldn't find them, because they lived 2 apartment buildings down. Luckily it was absolutely soaked so I kept it up for 2 more years burned and scarred.

[–] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 13 points 4 months ago

I'm sorry this happened to you.

[–] Kolrami@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Police couldn't find them, because they lived 2 apartment buildings down.

I don't understand this part. Shouldn't that be the very reason why police should be able to find them?

[–] NGnius@lemmy.ca 15 points 4 months ago

I think it was more a comment along the lines of "we tried nothing and we're all out of ideas"

[–] Jasonw911@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] Kolrami@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

That just makes me wonder so much more. How do we know they were Syrian and how do we know where they live without finding them?

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[–] PuddingFeeling907@lemmy.ca 17 points 4 months ago (6 children)

Fascism will keep rising if the people do not put pressure on the liberals to enact proportional representation.

[–] VirtualOdour@sh.itjust.works 8 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Why is this fascism? Seems like good old fashioned religious intolerance and violence.

Though this article skipped some details on that aspect.

[–] psvrh@lemmy.ca 16 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Why is this fascism? Seems like good old fashioned religious intolerance and violence.

Which, let's be honest, tends to be best buddies with fascism...

[–] northmaple1984@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 months ago

The the majority of large, brutal facist and authoritarian regimes of the last hundred or two years were secular: Nazi Germany (paid Christianity lip service near the beginning but that fell off as some churches opposed and loyalty to the state became more important), the USSR, Mao's China, and other smaller non-USSR communist regimes that committed massive atrocities (such as the Khmer Rouge)

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[–] Damage@feddit.it 11 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] Thelemmybud@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago

If we do not pressure the liberals to pass portional representation as 40 members of the liberal party supported advancing the idea in Bill M-86 then Pierre Poilievre will win a majority government and he will suspend the charter of rights of freedom to get his way no matter what. I also notice the conservative premier are promising to do the same.

[–] atro_city@fedia.io 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I see the perps on the picture! Cops are doing a bad job :P

[–] FireRetardant@lemmy.world 31 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Cops failled to collect IDs of the attackers. They had them breifly detained but the men refused to provide ID so the cops just what, shrugged and said guess thats checkmate?

[–] atro_city@fedia.io 13 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Cops don't want you to know this one simple trick!

[–] nik282000@lemmy.ca 4 points 4 months ago

The Trick: do the crime the cops were going to do anyway.

[–] Ironfist@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Be cautious with these kind of articles specially when we are close to elections. I personally dont recognize the source of this article, I have no idea if is a serious reliable source and I have no idea if the story is true.

Remember that there are foreign troll farms trying to create divisiveness in western countries posting ragebait articles from the left and the right, creating fake accounts on both sides saying outrageous things.

Im sorry if this is a real story, but we need to be cautious.

[–] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 2 points 4 months ago

That's a good point.

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