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Permacomputing

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Computing to support life on Earth

Computing in the age of climate crisis is often wasteful and adds nothing useful to our real life communities. Here we try to find out how to change that.

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“It feels like everyone is now choosing its side. You can’t stay in the middle anymore. You are either dedicating all your CPU cycles to run JavaScript tracking you or walking away from the big monopolies. You are either being paid to build huge advertising billboards on top of yet another framework or you are handcrafting HTML.”

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[–] theesm 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I've never really used corporate social media, but what I noticed was, that a lot of communities and platforms shifted towards them during the late 00s/early to mid 2010s. I pretty much grew up using IRC, BBS and newsgroups for discussions and interactions; most of the communities I've been a part of switched to either facebook (for the non-tech communities) and things like discord during the 2010s. I felt like many blogs just vanished around that time as well.

However, as of 2017 things started to change again, with activity pub based platforms, a healthier blog landscape, protocols like gemini, matrix (as well as XMPP). I wouldn't say that there's a splitting of the web ongoing, as to me, it rather feels like going back to normal and more and more people realizing that corporate social media loosing it shine as the ad-based attention economical dynamics of these platforms aren't a good foundation for social communities.

The corporate social web to some extend feels smiliar to most contemporary urban areas here in Europe; where every squaremeter is commercialized and no matter where you go, you seem to have always the same bland choice of chains, the same overpriced cafès with "modern industrial interior" and so on, and architecture with a certain hostility towards people to it. Especially during the last 3 years I've noticed more and more people growing sick of this and there's a certain demand for non-commercialized social spaces (libraries, community gardens and centres), and I'd say, the same applies to the internet as well; which is why non-commercial platforms and communities gain some traction again.

[–] cerement 2 points 1 year ago

‘you seem to have always the same bland choice of chains, the same overpriced cafès with “modern industrial interior” and so on, and architecture with a certain hostility towards people to it’

[The Verge] Welcome to AirSpace (2016)

[–] schmorpel 1 points 1 year ago

Very true and relatable. Recently a lot of corporate media platforms have the feel of turning into one of those half-abandoned malls - once all shiny and all the rage, now there's some weird Evangelical church in the basement, a filthy massage chair next to the elevator, and only one hairdresser and some shady cellphone repair shop survive. People say there's a sex shop in the third floor but you never go there anymore.

[–] activistPnk 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The “split” the author talks about really boils down to whether the webpage is a document or an app. If JavaScript is required, it’s an app. Otherwise it’s a document.

If this terminology catches on, it will help improve the situation. When an org says “visit our webpage”, the response could be something like “oh, you want me to run your app… no thanks; but if you have a proper document I’d take a look.”

[–] Jakdracula@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Did you write this? If so, there’s a typo: “ave on Mastodon. I’ve tens of really insightful”

“tens” should probably be “tons”

[–] worfamerryman@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I’ve been thinking about this with the DRM google is proposing. If that takes off, it will not really affect the sites I visit much.

The sites I visit would not use it and I’d find alternatives to the majority of sites that I need that do depend on it.

[–] francisco 2 points 1 year ago

I'm pretty much always looking out for alternatives, and using alternative websites. What I've struggled most with are the homemaking websites, banking apps, and the smartphone OS itself. After that comes the ticket buying websites, like the occasional airfare, or if I need a taxi ride.

So, one can get away up to the point you are dealing with money and then either you'll be an outcast or you are forced into sharing your personal info.

I don't see a polarization in this. Even the OS calculator asks for network access. You can slow the leeching but you cannot avoid it completely without getting offline.