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I'm looking for a paid cloud storage provider (like google drive, but not google drive) which is privacy minded, so with features like e2e encryption. I've been using Jottacloud to backup my large collection of photos. Jottacloud has been satisfactory, but I've heard other users complain of incomplete backups, where certain files are just missing. That makes me a little bit nervous, so I'm looking for something else. Does anyone of you know a good provider?

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[–] noodlejetski@geddit.social 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] YSwaggings@feddit.uk 2 points 1 year ago

Thanks, should have looked there of course, but I'm interested in personal experiences as well.

[–] Mako_Bunny@geddit.social 14 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Proton drive works well for me

[–] ActualShark@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 year ago

Another vote for Proton drive. It's reliable enough for me

[–] YSwaggings@feddit.uk 3 points 1 year ago

Thanks for the suggestion! I have protonmail (paid) and I think I have 500GB storage space currently. Unfortunately that is insufficient space, because I'm going towards the 1TB. I'll have a look at the other plans, perhaps they offer more space :)

[–] opt9@feddit.ch 3 points 1 year ago

Proton Drive is well on the way but missing a lot of features and the smoothness of other cloud providers. I think they need 6-12 months to really be up to snuff.

[–] randomuser38529@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (3 children)
[–] ISOmorph@feddit.de 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I'm a customer with them and didn't have any issues for now. It's however relevant to note, that there is no sftp option or the like. So rsync automation doesn't really work. They do have an app to sync folders but it's barebones and you have to take care of file encryption yourself.

[–] leraje@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] ISOmorph@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I would think that would be the bare minimum for a privacy focused provider. Like I said, you have to take care of file encryption yourself (with something like VeraCrypt). Their tool doesn't help you with that.

[–] narc0tic_bird@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

You mean on your own disk? Makes sense I guess, I wouldn't want my cloud sync client to mess with encrypting files on my SSD.

The point is that before data is uploaded, it's encrypted locally by the Filen client. Job well done I guess.

[–] YSwaggings@feddit.uk 1 points 1 year ago

Thanks for your view. Not sure how other providers take care of file encryption, but in the way I want to use it encrypting the files myself is not an option.

[–] thecam@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

+1 for Filen. They also offer lifetime plans now and then which is always a good deal.

[–] taladar@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

That whole thing with 2TB being the largest plan and then you have to combine plans that might end on different days depending on your order time seems quite convoluted.

[–] badgrandpa@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

filen.io, mega,

[–] amarnasmoths 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I've been using Koofr.eu for years and never had a single problem. They offer many interesting integrations with encryption tools, WebDAV...

The app creates backups of my phone media (you can choose the folders you want to update) instantaneously, and with its desktop app I can also access to the stuff in my computer.

[–] GitProphet@lemmy.sdfeu.org 3 points 1 year ago

I'm using MEGA and it works nicely (I have the free 50G version) Anything really sensitive that I still want to sync I put inside a veracrypt container.

[–] DevOops@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If you have a server that you can sync the photos with (using Syncthing for example), then I recommend using Rclone or Duplicati to save your backups (encrypted) to any cloud that you want. I'm using OneDrive and GoogleDrive for my encrypted backups, pretty happy with the setup.

If you don't have a server, then Filen or Proton Drive looks like great services.

Whatever you do, always test your backups!

[–] YSwaggings@feddit.uk 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I like your suggestion! I have a Proxmox server running. I'm I right to understand that rclone or duplicati take care of the file encryption? This would mean no easy way to access files in your backup, but I don't see that as a problem

[–] DevOops@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes, both Rclone and Duplicati will handle the encryption for you. For Rclone, there's an Android app called RCX that lets you access the files. The reason I sometimes use Duplicati is because of the incremental backups, where I don't think it's possible for Rclone. Rclone is literally a clone from your disk to some cloud.

[–] YSwaggings@feddit.uk 2 points 1 year ago

Ah that is good to know. I really appreciate the tip!

[–] birdcat@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If you just want a place to backup photos, I'd use something safe and reliable (I use windows one drive cuz I have one TB there anyway) in combination with cryptomator. Literally cannot go wrong.

Never trust stuff that sounds too good to be true. Companies like pCloud sometimes have lifetime offers of like 1000 TB for $200 or something. But a quick search will lead you to countless complaints of people that got their account disabled for some kind of 'violation of terms'

[–] YSwaggings@feddit.uk 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Encrypting the files not really an option for me. I backup the photos but simultaneously they are used in PhotoPrism for collection, meta data changes, etc. Or I need to think about adopting another workflow...

[–] birdcat@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But where are you running photo prism?

[–] YSwaggings@feddit.uk 2 points 1 year ago

I'm running it on my NAS. I would like a non local backup of my files.

[–] wagoner@infosec.pub 2 points 1 year ago

Sync.com works well for me.

[–] opt9@feddit.ch 2 points 1 year ago

Mega offers e2ee and good prices. Collaboration does not update correctly on mobile (android and ios). Besides that, works well.

Koofr is also very good with a full e2ee option for the paranoid. You can also pay with Monero which is important. Any service that is selling privacy but does not offer a private method of payment is half-assed. Mega only takes Btc and calls all other crypto "shitcoins." Draw your own conclusions.

[–] Oha@feddit.de 2 points 1 year ago

I dont use it but Tutanota recently got cloud storage
https://tutanota.com/blog/pqdrive-project

[–] FeelzGoodMan420@eviltoast.org 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Don't use ANY form of a cloud if you actually care about your privacy. Local backups only.

[–] mojo@lemm.ee 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is terrible advice if you even somewhat care about data loss, security, and syncing up content on many devices.

[–] FeelzGoodMan420@eviltoast.org 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Can you explain further? I'd like to hear other viewpoints on this. It's possible I am an idiot.

[–] mojo@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

In form of data backup you should follow the 3 2 1 rule, which involves off-site backups, which is cloud storage. If you plan on accessing anything out of the house, that involves self hosting which means exposing your devices to the greater internet. Each thing you expose is now a new service that needs constant maintenance and potential security issues, not including everything you may misconfigure. That's a lot of security issues for a regular person. You also need to self host these things if you want to sync real time between your devices, which is also important for backups.

[–] FeelzGoodMan420@eviltoast.org 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Wait I'm so sorry. I are you saying my advice is bad? Or OP's?

[–] mojo@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

As in not using cloud backups is bad idea

[–] FeelzGoodMan420@eviltoast.org 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I mean what if you just had 2 HDDs mirrored on site and then like 1 or 2 copies off site? That's basically the 3 2 1 rule but manual

[–] mojo@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yeah, that'd be cloud storage lol