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China can end Russia’s war in Ukraine with a phone call, Finland says (www.japantimes.co.jp)

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[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 21 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Okay I count five countries in the title. This is the most world news thing I've seen all week.

[–] Land_Strider@lemmy.world 11 points 4 months ago (2 children)

There are four countries!

[–] Furball@sh.itjust.works 17 points 4 months ago

If you count the website name as part of it then it’s 5

[–] Kuroshio@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago

Can end a 🇨🇦

[–] kandoh@reddthat.com 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

China can make one phone call and collapse the price of oil and gas?

[–] faizalr@kbin.run 2 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Definitely no.

[–] ms_lane@lemmy.world 15 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Definitely yes. Putin belongs to Xi.

If Xi wanted the war over, Putin would roll over immediately. There is no world where lowly Putin gets to say 'No' to Xi.

[–] mindlight@lemm.ee 4 points 4 months ago

China has next to no dependencies on Russia but Russia would collapse within 2 years of China just said no.

Both Xi and Putin knew this when they had their little negotiation last year.

Oh my.... Imagine how far Putin had to lean forward for Xi to get China to deliver the essentials for Putin's war machine.

[–] saltesc@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

And now that you know the value of the card held, you know what needs to be offered to see it played.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago

Maybe, but it sure wouldn't hurt to try.

[+] Objection@lemmy.ml -8 points 4 months ago (2 children)

The US chose to saber-rattle with China before the war in Ukraine, which destroyed any possibility of this that might have existed. China was never going to agree to diplomatically isolating Russia when it would so obviously be next.

[–] mindlight@lemm.ee 0 points 4 months ago

Great theory you have there.

So when USA would be doing whatever you think they would do to China, how do you think that would affect the economy of USA and the rest of the West when all essential manufacturing stops to a grinding halt worldwide?

Covid showed the world what happens if China is unable to keep the factories up and running 100%... And you seem to have missed it all because you have been asleep since 2018 and just woke up?

[–] Doom@ttrpg.network 0 points 4 months ago (2 children)

This dude lives in a delusional dream state

[–] Objection@lemmy.ml 0 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Not a dude, and the US got along much better with China, until around 2019 when the wars in the Middle East were winding down and the US needed a new justification for defense contracts, and when it needed to shift blame for botching COVID. That's when all of a sudden everyone started hating China for no other reason than the news said to.

[–] kandoh@reddthat.com 5 points 4 months ago

I would say the US got along better with China until American citizens started to get freaked out that there was another country that was becoming a bigger economic and military power than they were.

[–] Doom@ttrpg.network -2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Uhhhh sure let's go with that and ignore the growing abuse of sweat shops or the muslims China abuses or the bullshit happening in the sea or Myanmar or Tibet or Taiwan or their relationship with North Korea

Look the US ain't a good guy either but all you fucks act like China is lol

[–] Objection@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

I'm glad that the US has suddenly started caring about labor rights and the well-being of Muslims, and I'm sure that it's just pure coincidence that it happens to be aligned with criticizing and fear-mongering it's largest competitor.

There are plenty of poor countries with worse conditions than China. Major multinational corporations set up shell corporations to run their sweatshops and if they get exposed they say, "We had no idea," maybe pay a tiny fine, then set up another company to do the exact same thing. Many of these countries are in the US's sphere of influence, and many have to sign away control of their own domestic policies as a condition for entry into the global marketplace, while their resources, stolen by force by colonizers, remain in foreign hands.

Why isn't the US concerned about their labor conditions? I'll tell you why: because one of those cases means giving more money to rich corporations in the form of defense contracts, and the other means restricting the ability of rich corporations to exploit the poor. All the bombs the US is building will do nothing to improve the conditions of anyone living in China, while there are plenty of people who the US could be lifting out of poverty if it cared to.

The sudden decline in relations was not because the whole US just woke up one day and decided to start caring about the conditions of laborers in China, which used to be much worse than today. Don't feed me that nonsense.

[–] Doom@ttrpg.network 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

The relationship was never good I dunno where you live but China has always been considered not a real friend by the US. Business doesn't mean good relations lol

[–] Objection@lemmy.ml 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I didn't say the relations were good, but they were certainly a lot better 5 years ago.