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[โ€“] Happywop@lemmy.world 27 points 4 months ago (3 children)

So tell me, those OPS officers who refused to carry out their direct orders from the Chief of Police have been fired right? right? That whole thing smacked of foreign funded alt right operations. I am extremely critical of Trudeau but he did the right thing, these guys were at best duped assholes and at worst foreign influenced agents. Oh and a special eff off to the right wing conservatives who tried to get vote milage from this shameful display.

[โ€“] BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.world 17 points 4 months ago

No they weren't fired of course. And despite my own critique of Trudeau I agree he did the right thing.

[โ€“] Cobrachickenwing@lemmy.ca 13 points 4 months ago

Let's not forget Trudeau only stepped in when there was no end in sight in Ottawa and there was threats of escalation to FLQ levels. Doug was busy at a ski Lodge baking deserts when he should have been at Ottawa. It's why he refused to testify, using the courts to do so in the inquiry that followed.

[โ€“] northmaple1984@lemmy.ca -5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I am extremely critical of Trudeau but he did the right thing

If you read the federal court ruling, they list several reasons why he didn't; largely summarised as:

(1) The invocation of the EA being overly broad (it temporarily outlaws protests on any topic anywhere in the country, which is a Charter violation of anyone not involved in the protest),

(2) Invocation was unnecessary (provinces and cities were capable of clearing out other protests without it), and

(3) It resulted in unreasonable search and seizure of those alleged to be involved in the protest (another Charter violation, with no due process to boot).

I can definitely understand disagree on point 2, but not 1 or 3. There's no reason someone in Moosejaw should be stopped from protesting croc shoes while this was going on (not saying this happened but it could have with the way the EA was invoked), nor was there any process or accountablility with selecting who's bank accounts got hit.

[โ€“] Happywop@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Invocation was totally necessary because the check and balances didn't do their fucking job, there rest is semantics, we were under siege as a nation to a very small minority. Fuck that noise, I hope King and Leech go to jail and those Cotts assholes too.

[โ€“] northmaple1984@lemmy.ca -5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I felt far more under seige by the federal and provincial mandates than by any of the related protests.

[โ€“] Happywop@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

siege? what trying to protect the public from a pandemic is "under siege" but armed organized groups taking over border crossing and the ambassador bridge isn't a "siege"? have i got that right sport-o or do I need to break out the crayons and sock puppets ffs?

[โ€“] northmaple1984@lemmy.ca -4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

"Trying to protect the public" aka limiting what people can and can't do. We're adults, we can protect ourselves.

[โ€“] Happywop@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

really? I highly doubt you followed any of the health guidelines and probably chaffed at them "muy freedumbs" etc. I lost two elderly family members to jackasses like you , specifically my cousin who went somewhere where the HA said don't, scoffed, caught covid symptomatic, came home, infected my aunt and uncle (both late 70's early 80s for sure) and killed them withing a couple of weeks. he still goes to therapy. So no..i don't believe you can "protect yourselves" especially if you scoff at expert direction, that just makes you an idiot, but don't worry you are legion because basically idiocrasy was prescient not a comedy.

[โ€“] northmaple1984@lemmy.ca -5 points 4 months ago

Sorry your cousin is a fucking moron, but I think it's fucking absurd to curtial the freedoms of everyone because of the lowest common denominator of people.

Perhaps consider there's a lot of space between draconian government restrictions and acting like a complete buffoon.

[โ€“] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 11 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Hats off to the writer, a surprisingly well balanced report on events.

[โ€“] BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.world 9 points 4 months ago

Walrus is pretty good. I wish they hadn't called it the jab though, that is the language of the bat shit.