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[–] ThatWeirdGuy1001@lemmy.world 35 points 3 months ago (1 children)

My problem would be that even if whatever god themselves came down to show themselves to me I'd just think I was hallucinating and going crazy.

Doesn't help my family has history with schizophrenia so I'd legitimately just think "Oh it's finally happening..."

[–] rambling_lunatic@sh.itjust.works 16 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The gods would know that and, assuming sufficient knowledge and power, know how to convince you that you're seeing reality.

[–] Riven@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 3 months ago

Wouldn't be hard, just chuck a couple bricks of cash at me after appearing. If it's actual god then it's actual cash I can go and spend. That's proof enough lul.

[–] ohwhatfollyisman@lemmy.world 16 points 3 months ago (2 children)

if your god exists and is all-powerful, why have they allowed other religions to flourish?

[–] Wxnzxn@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Something something mysterious ways, human freedom necessary to be judged, yadda yadda

[–] Clent@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago

Judged by whom? God? If he's all knowing all powerful then he knows how I'll do in his simulation before I begin.

[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 16 points 3 months ago

Further, even if your god exists, that does not mean it's worthy of worship. In fact, any being who desires worship is most certainly not worthy of it.

[–] M1k3y@discuss.tchncs.de 15 points 3 months ago (2 children)

If god wanted me to believe, the bible would contain anything provably right. Or at least not so many ridiculous and obviously false claims.

[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago

Yeah, it was very clearly written by people who didn't know that much about how the world worked but did know that they could trick others into believing they were experts. And in the very first story, they added a warning to try to prevent others from figuring out things and proving them wrong: the original sin was eating from the tree of knowledge.

How that doesn't scream, "Stay ignorant so I can continue to control you!" to everyone who reads it and isn't a child who still trusts everything, I can't understand.

[–] MeanEYE@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

It could have just said: Earth is round or in the past there were huge animals who got killed by me. Or anything we would later discover it's true.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 11 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

The Babel fish is small, yellow and leech-like, and probably the oddest thing in the Universe. It feeds on brainwave energy received not from its own carrier but from those around it. It absorbs all unconscious mental frequencies from this brainwave energy to nourish itself with. It then excretes into the mind of its carrier a telepathic matrix formed by combining the conscious thought frequencies with the nerve signals picked up from the speech centres of the brain which has supplied them. The practical upshot of all this is that if you stick a Babel fish in your ear you can instantly understand anything said to you in any form of language. The speech patterns you actually hear decode the brainwave matrix which has been fed into your mind by your Babel fish.

Now it is such a bizarrely improbable coincidence that anything so mindbogglingly useful could have evolved purely by chance that some thinkers have chosen it to see it as a final and clinching proof of the non-existence of God.

The argument goes something like this: "I refuse to prove that I exist," says God, "for proof denies faith, and without faith I am nothing."

"But," says Man, "the Babel fish is a dead giveaway isn't it? It could not have evolved by chance. It proves you exist, and therefore, by your own arguments, you don't. QED."

"Oh dear," says God, "I hadn't thought of that," and promptly vanishes in a puff of logic.

"Oh, that was easy," says Man, and for an encore goes on to prove that black is white and gets killed on the next zebra crossing.

[–] Chr0nos1@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

Love that book

[–] DougHolland@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago

Man, that is one trippy historical turn of events.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 10 points 3 months ago (2 children)

If I wanted people to believei existed, I would simply appear on camera and give an interview

[–] BreadOven@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

Just like Dr. Manhattan.

[–] Maalus@lemmy.world -2 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Which would then be questioned by people till time immemorial, with schisms appearing left and right and accusations of tampering with the tape going rampant. Also, mysterious ways n shit

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

Oh sure, but people will do this over subjects that are irrefutable, too.

[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

That god can do it multiple times. It doesn't need to be a one time thing.

Do it every 10 or so years and you will have everyone believing.

[–] nomous@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Why does god even care if we worship it?

[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 months ago

According to the mechanics in popular franchises like D&D, a god can only be a god if they are worshipped.

[–] MataVatnik@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago

Obviously need more mushrooms

[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 3 months ago

Your [alleged] god [allegedly] knows what evidence will convince me, on the supposition They are omniscient.

In contrast to the few (thousands) of popular notions of god or gods, there are an unknowable but are greater number of theistic cosmic paradigms that are not popular or even conceived by humankind.

A lot of them are programmers or dreamers.

Most of them are completely apathetic to our well-being and don't care about us individually. Some don't notice us at all. To others, we're roaches in the card reader and are a pest.

To assume we are special or chosen by the divine is literally hubris.