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[–] zcd@lemmy.ca 56 points 5 months ago (2 children)
[–] Resol@lemmy.world 27 points 5 months ago (3 children)

You can't really be killed by both at the same time, unless somehow the guillotine blade lands on your neck as soon as the submarine implodes. But even then, only one of them will claim a kill to its name.

So this is a case where we can't just have both. And I'm always the one who references that commercial in comments.

[–] zcd@lemmy.ca 31 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] Resol@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I get called a philosopher quite a lot, despite ironically getting bad grades in philosophy.

You can just call me Resol van Lemmy.

[–] Batman@sopuli.xyz 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] Resol@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago
[–] garbagebagel@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I mean, there's plenty of billionaires so it doesn't have to be both at the same time.

[–] Resol@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

I don't really get this one.

[–] Rustmilian@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The blade would have to be partway in your neck, because the subs implode that fast.

[–] Resol@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

I guess I stand corrected.

[–] SubArcticTundra@lemmy.ml 1 points 5 months ago

One inside the other

[–] littletranspunk@lemmus.org 37 points 5 months ago
[–] Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee 34 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I don't.
I want the classic one as it's far more sustainable & reusable, (even more) eco friendly, and the ride can be enforced in case they get last minute jitters.

[–] Classy@sh.itjust.works 7 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I imagine that the carbon offset caused by a billionaire no longer existing would outweigh most "dirty" forms of death

[–] Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Im thinking poultry industry mechanised processing. We have those and they themselves labeled it 'humane' (Im not saying they are human or humane, it's just the words we are using).

[–] TurtleJoe@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I read a brochure at my local butcher shop. The chickens they sell are put in crates and gassed to death. Supposedly pretty easy on the animals. This seems much more efficient than individual submersible trips.

[–] far_university1990@feddit.de 0 points 5 months ago

Klingt als hätte ich diese Geschichte schon einmal gehört…

Sound like i hear this story before…

[–] Sibbo@sopuli.xyz 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I understand. The ride doesn't need external assistance though. It seems to have some natural magic force that attracts billionaires. I never heard the classic being used by a person on their own, out of free will.

Maybe they both have their own specialisation, so they can coexist without competing for customers.

[–] Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

You are right. But the magic is working too slow for a meaningful all-around effect.

The classic is a proven method. Idj, Im just worried & don't want to get it wrong.

[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 31 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I say we give the billionaires Elmer’s glue, q-tips and toilet paper rolls and whoever gets to the Titanic wins a prize.

[–] Toes@ani.social 7 points 5 months ago

You got the start to a deluxe pizza there

[–] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

They'll never get to proper crushing depths with that though. I say we provide them with exact replicas down to the Logitech F1350s.

[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

I’m okay with watching them swim six hundred and ninety kilometres to shore.

[–] Etterra@lemmy.world 25 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Sadly this new billionaire stunt will likely have no karmic punchline. They plan on using a real sub, not just a glorified plastic tube.

[–] mdd@lemm.ee 16 points 5 months ago (3 children)

The Titanic lies at a depth of about 12,500 feet (3,800 metres) and there are only a handful of subs currently rated to go there. I'd bet money this new ass-clown is going to treat safety the same way the last one did.

[–] vrighter@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 5 months ago

iiuc he contracted a reputable company to build it for him

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I doubt they will, considering they probably don't want to die and got a reminder of what recklessness gets you.

[–] TheAristocrat@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago (1 children)

They are contracting Triton Submarines to do it, and they look pretty legit.

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 5 points 5 months ago

Reading about their ultra-deep submersibles it does sound like they have the specs for it. I probably wouldn't dare but it doesn't seem like they're fucking around like the lunatics on that Logitech controlled imploder

[–] Xephonian@retrolemmy.com 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

And you'd be wrong. Triton subs have the only full-ocean-depth commercially rated submersible. It literally has no depth rating, it safe in any part of the ocean. And not just once. Repeatedly.

Check out the stupid mistakes that were made with OceanGate - https://www.engineering.com/story/potential-structural-reasons-for-the-titan-submersible-failure

"You’re remembered for the rules you break. And I’ve broken some rules to make this. The carbon fiber and titanium? There’s a rule you don’t do that. Well, I did.”

There were several people who quit working with OceanGate because their failure would paint all submersibles with a bad reputation. And thanks to morons like you and Stockton, they were right.

[–] mdd@lemm.ee 3 points 5 months ago

Damn, I admit I was guessing after looking at the headlines. Glad to hear someone is attempting to do it safely.

I am familiar with engineering and was amazed at all the corners cut by Oceangate.

There were several people who quit working with OceanGate because their failure would paint all submersibles with a bad reputation. And thanks to morons like you and Stockton, they were right.

Please don't lump me in with Stockton. I may be a moron in many respects but I disagree with his whole approach the endeavor.

Safety rules are usually written in blood and ignored all of them.

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 25 points 5 months ago (2 children)

The new model is flawed because it negatively impacts the ocean environment.

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago

This is just the trolley dilemma.

[–] benignintervention@lemmy.world 22 points 5 months ago

Big fan of the billionaire crushing machine

[–] Rustmilian@lemmy.world 14 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Billionaires like Larry Connor pursuing these expeditions with experimental submersibles seem to be driven more by ego, novelty-seeking, and a reckless desire to conquer challenges that provide little scientific value, rather than any practical purpose that hasn't already been accomplished. Their decisions to risk their lives in this manner over something so well-explored is stupid and unnecessary.

[–] Xephonian@retrolemmy.com -5 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] Rustmilian@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago
[–] FangedWyvern42@lemmy.world 8 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Not in this case. The new sub is actually being built by a competent company, not morons.

[–] PenisWenisGenius@lemmynsfw.com 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Some day, the now-competent company will get ruined by boomer investors that know nothing about submarines and it'll be oceangate 2 electric bugalo.

[–] FangedWyvern42@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

Investors aren’t going to get into submarines unless they already are interested in them.

[–] Admetus@sopuli.xyz 3 points 5 months ago

To be fair though, part of the passengers were a father & son participating in a sort of father & son trip in which the son was adamant that he didn't want to go down in the submarine. He was literally scared. But the father dragged the son down with him, and sadly the son perished inside something he feared.

[–] BakerBagel@midwest.social 3 points 5 months ago

We all live for a blood red guillotine, blood red guillotine, a blood red guillotine. 🎺🎺🎺