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Any other incumbent president had lost the election?
Jimmy Carter and George H.W. Bush, off the top of my head.
Poor Jimmy, great guy
After Nixon resigned in disgrace, America voted in a Democrat...and then booted him out and went back to Republicans for 12 years.
...yeah?
It doesn't speak well to our decision making as a voting population.
Well that tends to happen when someone shows up saying "we don't negotiate with terrorists" then proceeds to not only negotiate with terrorists, but conduct business with them in order to aid another militant group that congress wasn't fond of,
In other words, giving [the enemy] aid and comfort.
Electoral* voting population
What do you vote in, other than elections?
I'm assuming you're not American.
If I'm correct in that assumption, you're in for a real fucking treat. Our elections don't follow simple popular vote or ranked-choice. We have our own system that was designed back when the average citizen was uneducated and therefore couldn't make an informed decision. It's quite interesting (and infuriating) to research.
To point out the very biggest flaw, a presidential candidate doesn't need the popular majority to win the election. Republicans will try to say this is not an important problem to fix, because it's only happened three times in the nation's history, but you'll so find when looking at popular vote numbers that this is loophole is the only thing that gives Republicans a chance in the presidential election these days. Since 2000, we have had 2 Republicans and 2 Democrat presidents. Both of the Republicans lost the popular vote, but still won the election. (The one other time was Andrew Johnson in like the late 1860s I think.
Sound confusing? Of course it does, the whole system is intentionally confusing to keep you from asking questions!
I am American, and the in three elections I'm referring to, the Republican candidate won the popular vote as well. Obviously it's not like that any more, but I was pointing to the 12 years of Republicans we got right after Nixon specifically.
Not the electoral college.
In all 3 elections I'm referring to, the Republican won the popular vote as well, so that's not relevant in this case.
Are you cherry picking elections from before 2004? Democrats have won the last four elections in popular votes.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/1035521/popular-votes-republican-democratic-parties-since-1828/
Or you're talking about 30 years ago for some reason like it matters today.
I was responding to a comment about Jimmy Carter losing the election. Seems pretty relevant to me.
Yeah i see what you're saying. Sorry bout that
Most recently, other than Trump, George HW Bush lost the election while incumbent. Prior to that it was Jimmy Carter.
The next most recent person to win the election but lose the popular vote was George W Bush, prior to that is was Harrison back in 1888.