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[–] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 766 points 3 months ago (179 children)

I don't understand you people in this thread.

Ever since the debate, people have been calling for Joe Biden to step down from the presidential race and give the place to someone else.

Now I read the comments and everyone is criticizing and accusing the Democrats of not knowing what they're doing? Are you for real? They're doing EXACTLY what people have been asking for. They're doing EXACTLY what needs to be done if they want to win.

Fucking hell you guys, make up your fucking mind.

Sincerely,

A Canadian with severe anxiety over your next presidential election.

[–] alvvayson@lemmy.dbzer0.com 276 points 3 months ago (7 children)

Well, to be fair, he should have stepped down a year ago, or at least 3 months ago. I vaguely remember him saying he was going to be a 1 term candidate in 2020.

Anyway, I respect Biden. I honestly think he was a better president than Obama, Bush, Trump and Clinton. Perhaps the best since Carter or JFK.

[–] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 119 points 3 months ago (5 children)

I vaguely remember him saying he was going to be a 1 term candidate in 2020.

You're correct, he did. Everyone forgot that for some reason. Note that this article is from 2019:

https://www.politico.com/news/2019/12/11/biden-single-term-082129

[–] Blackbeard@lemmy.world 96 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

Another top Biden adviser put it this way: “He’s going into this thinking, ‘I want to find a running mate I can turn things over to after four years but if that’s not possible or doesn’t happen then I’ll run for reelection.’ But he’s not going to publicly make a one term pledge.”

That source does not say what you're claiming it says.

[–] PM_Your_Nudes_Please@lemmy.world 12 points 3 months ago

Which is ironic, because he picked Harris then used her as the bearer of bad news at every single opportunity.

[–] shasta@lemm.ee 8 points 3 months ago (3 children)

So add those together and it implies he doesn't think Harris has the chops. But, to be fair, if that was actually the plan, they would've given her much more PR over the last 4 years.

[–] dariusj18@lemmy.world 14 points 3 months ago

If it weren't Trump running I think he would have stepped aside. He believed in 2019, and probably still believes now, that he has the best chance against Trump and that Trump is a singularly existential threat.

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 months ago

it implies he doesn’t think Harris has the chops

Or that he changed his mind. Or that his assurances to aides that he wouldn't run for a second term were just to shut them up.

Power is seductive, and I think it's pretty likely that once he became president, he convinced himself that he was still the best one for the job, and that he uniquely deserved to continue to govern.

[–] ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk 3 points 3 months ago

It feels like they have explicitly tried to prevent Kamala from getting positive coverage throughout.

[–] OldWoodFrame@lemm.ee 43 points 3 months ago

He very specifically did not say publicly that he would be a 1 term president. Talking through the idea with aides and someone leaking it does not equal a campaign promise.

This is a new decision, obviously. He is going to be a 1 term president. But he never promised it.

[–] bolexforsoup@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 3 months ago

Your own source contradicts this claim…doesn’t look like we forgot about anything.

[–] vxx@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago

Well, he didn't lie.

[–] MegaUltraChicken@lemmy.world 25 points 3 months ago

I vaguely remember him saying he was going to be a 1 term candidate in 2020.

He specifically denied that when asked. To be fair he did say he was a "bridge to a new generation" or something, that's where I think a lot of people are getting this one term commitment thing from.

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/joe-biden-denies-mulling-term-pledge-elected-president/story?id=67662497

[–] GreyEyedGhost@lemmy.ca 8 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

All the sane countries can do their elections in less than a year, possibly because the stagecoach is no longer the best transportation or communication option. If you guys didn't run it like American Fucking Idol, maybe it wouldn't be this difficult.

Now I'll go sit in the corner and hope for the best for you guys while waiting to see if my country shits the bed in a year.

[–] spaghettiwestern@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 months ago

Biden definitely learned something from watching the Republicans screw Obama again and again.

[–] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 months ago
[–] DrSteveBrule@mander.xyz 0 points 3 months ago

I'm pretty sure he said he wasn't going to run for a 2nd term on the Smartless podcast

[–] Guy_Fieris_Hair@lemmy.world -3 points 3 months ago

Better president than Obama????? Nah... I miss those days. You just... like.... lived your life. Not worried about the president. He just did things. Improvement of the economy was slow, but there were regulations put in place to prevent the recession from happening again that slowed the growth. I am OK with that. Trump immediately repealed them and Biden never attempted to reinstate anything. So it will happen again.

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