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[–] Zron@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Proponents for equal rights in the 50s didn’t do arcane legal rituals like putting stamps at a 45 degree angle and signing shit in blood.

Sovcit ideas have no basis in reality. They aren’t arguing that black people are in fact people, they are arguing that they deserve vast sums of money or to be debt free because of made up fairytales about old law books and contracts between companies and the government.

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Sovcit ideas have no basis in reality. They aren’t arguing that black people are in fact people, they are arguing that they deserve vast sums of money or to be debt free because of made up fairytales about old law books and contracts between companies and the government.

OK, didn't know this part.

I also haven't really met a reichsbuerger or a "citizen of USSR", so can't speak about them either.

It still seems that there are some for whom it's about justice and not about magic.

[–] Zron@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Oh they all think they’ve suffered some injustice

Most sovcits have issues with not paying child support. They want to not pay, which is how they get started down this rabbit hole and how they end up with so much debt. They think child support or whatever debt they have is an unfair burden, and try to seek justice for themselves by getting the debt erased.

Except unlike a normal person who would work overtime to pay or file for bankruptcy, they start citing law books from the 1850s and start referring to themselves as the person John Doe not the legal entity John Doe, and that the person John Doe doesn’t have any debts for whatever bullshit reason they can think of. That’s why they sign stuff in red, because they think black ink is only for corporations, and red ink is for people.

They think they’re seeking justice for themselves, except they want all of the benefits of being a citizen without any of the responsibility like paying taxes or debts.

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

That is familiar, but around me such people are Marxist.