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Democrats are about to get fucked hard, and their hubris did it to them
I mean....
You mean, like in 2016? No. Surely not. No.
We all know there is no one they could run that would make you happy.
I would vote for anyone. I would vote for Biden, but very much do not want to. If they put someone else in there who wasn't also a fascist, then I'd vote for them. The problem is that Biden is not doing very well and is being a shit by not listening to anyone around him. Democrats are fucking retarded because this should have been happening 2 or 3 fucking YEARS ago. The Democrats are incompetent pieces of shit who are also the only thing keeping this country together. They need to behave like they actually know how to govern.
Biden himself literally said at least 50 democrats would win against Trump.
The clown I responded to admitted that the democrats can’t run anyone they’d vote for. So what Biden says or does is irrelevant. They even admitted to being here to actively convince people not to vote.
They’re essentially here to get Trump elected- intentionally or not.
That's correct, the party as a whole do not represent the working class. I would speculate most democrat voters agree but feel trapped in the 2 party system and would never vocally discuss their dissatisfaction for fear of being ostracized by their peers.
Case in point, the other reply to yours
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So tell me, again- how much do you think you’ll accomplish by doing nothing? Additionally- when in history has doing nothing helped a situation like this? I’d love for you to name an event. Just ONE event in history where not voting brought a positive change. Because by not voting, you’re essentially saying you’re okay with things the way they are and are willing to let chance dictate the lives of others.
And tell me again how you want age restrictions on candidates. If you had your way- We’d never have even had a shot with Bernie. And he’d be retired.
You can cry all you want that the system is broken, but at the end of the day- it isn’t going to be changed by a bunch of blowhards staying home and whining on the internet.
Oh, and lastly:
If we’re going to be judged on how people respond to us, you probably should delete your account and find something better to do with your time. Because it seems you spread a lot of misinformation and troll quite frequently.
We are ideologically opposed and will not support your candidates. We do not want the same future as liberals, we are not on your side.
Liberals have more in common with their republican counterparts than any leftists have with democrats
So…. You didn’t bother answering my question I noticed. Is it that you know the answer will unravel your entire argument?
Tell me- when has not voting brought change?
We both know the answer. You’re just too afraid to say it out loud because doing so, will force you to face the fact that you’re actively working against everyone that is trying to avoid America becoming a dictatorship.
You’re not ever getting what you want. You know that, right? Because clearly politics don’t work the way you think it does- this is evident in the fact that what you want contradicts itself entirety. In order to get what you want- LAWS HAVE TO CHANGE. But you refuse to vote for the people that actually would change those laws.
In essence- you’re fine with things the way they are and don’t give a shit enough to take the effort do actively do anything g to change it.
instead- you’re fine to have no active role in making America a better place for marginalized citizens.
Oh, and thank you for at least admitting you don’t give a shit. I know it wasn’t a direct statement, but we all got the message loud and clear.
You can keep talking to your blue in the face, there's a larger chance you would vote for Donald Trump than I would vote for either one of them. Imagine the way that you feel about Republicans not representing your interests, that's how I feel about both of them. They do not represent the working class. They represent the donor class, not us.
And since Democrats have all but given up on campaigning, they're allowing their constituents to conduct their campaign for them. They're doing a rather shitty job trying to persuade people to vote in their favor. Voters are leading by the example set by the party "shut the fuck up and fall in line, NOW!"
Cool. Be sure to tell all the people that will suffer under trump that you were too busy being smug and selfish to be bothered trying to help them in any way.
One vote dude.
You’re not special. They won’t know you did or didn’t do anything. But no, your smug and selfish ideology won’t allow you to compromise to save people you know will suffer.
Fucking disgusting man.
Oh, you must be talking about the same people that are suffering right now. You know, the marginalized, immigrants, LGBTQ+, women's rights, the working class, etc, etc, etc.
Voting for the people that are keeping them marginalized is smug and selfish.
Cool story. See what your smug selfishness causes. I’m done trying to reason with you.
None of your ramblings are based on reasoning, but on fear.
I've been trying, but Lemmy seems to be full of liberals that hate socialists more than fascists. It's no wonder they're toeing the party line and lashing out at everyone that doesn't.
They would rather uphold fascism then potentially lose the bread crumbs they get tossed. If they would stop fighting the left they could get the entire loaf instead of settling for table scraps
Oh the irony. Let’s see whose ramblings have been removed for misinformation and trolling more, shall we?
Doing a 2016 rerun, are we?
This is just like when the party conspired to nominate Hillary. Leftists who pointed out that this was a bad idea got kicked from liberal spaces en masse for their entirely justified lack of faith in the candidate.
They love repeating horrible decisions time and time again as if they are gonna get a different response
Then are you more aligned with the Republicans or the Democrats? Like it or not, the election system only supports two parties. That's what we should be pushing towards changing rather than hurting ourselves.
I'm not aligned with either, they represent the donor class, not us. They represent money while we get tossed table scraps.
The idea of reforming within is futile, no new blood obtains any positions of power until it's determined they are not a threat to the existing power structure.
Third parties under the First Past the Post voting system are literally the threat to the power structure that will just keep them pushed down by the major parties.
The major parties may be afraid of sharing power now, but they are also seeing the threat of losing power completely when they can't keep their coalitions together.
We see Democrats making a major move today with Biden stepping down from the race in order to placate parts of the party that are very unsatisfied. The threat is already more real today than it has ever been.
I think that people will realize that we are all in alignment about reforming the election system being better for the country, even to preserve a large part of the current power structure.