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You're legitimately looking at this too rationally. Because you're absolutely right, but that's just not the reality of the situation. The reality is that only about 40% of people are going to vote for Joe Biden no matter what. Trump doesn't have a guaranteed majority either, but you need that final 10% (or more or less because of the Electoral College) to be convinced Joe Biden will deliver on the things they consider Trump for. And if that concern is that he's not 'strong' enough to stand up to China or something because he's too 'weak' of a president, you must not ignore that because you need these people to get the goal you desire.
Converting the other people in the country back to rational people just isn't going to happen this election. It's a process that might take generations to be reverted. You need this victory now to even get a chance at starting that process. And by showing them their concerns matter and you don't just want to dismiss them, is part of regaining that trust and building a foundation to depolarize.
It's not going to happen because the media and every pundit up to John fucking Stewart think they can stop biden from running and they are all dead wrong. I have a mug in my house "I believe in RGB" (was a gift). We've rationalized theses old fucks loose grip on reality to the point of merchandising. While we all fight over how we're going to elect Harris Trump wipes his ass with classified documents for fun.
Stranger things have happened before in politics. But yes, you're right that these old people are very entangled to the point where they seem untouchable. But that's the point. That's their job as politicians. The only way that changes is if enough people get sick and tired of it and demand change, especially when their future is being sacrificed to satisfy some small portion's desire to keep a specific candidate on the ballot. If the party cannot stop this from ballooning they will eventually lose.
And you're right, Trump is happy to see that. But by rejecting concerns and not talking about it, compromising, you will get more infighting, not less. And more infighting will not cause the issue to be resolved faster, it will lead to a situation like you saw in 2016, where apathy rose to such degrees that people voted for Trump out of spite. It's a different situation now knowing what he is capable of, but you can't look at that apathy being bred as not terrifying.
Because again, there's a big chunk of people who just don't care about all the terrible stuff he's done to the degree they exclude him. What should have been sure democrat votes might be lost just to the insistence a specific candidate must represent them.