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    [–] Pissio@feddit.it 19 points 4 months ago (6 children)

    Windows is only for games; macOS and Linux are for work. Once they catch up, it will be bye-bye Windows.

    [–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 23 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

    been playin games on linux for a long ass time now, with minimal issue.

    with almost no issue in the past 3-4 years.

    Its caught up.

    Pretty much any game short of ones that have invasive kernal DRM run without much issue.

    [–] Landless2029@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (4 children)

    What's your recommended Linux distro for a Windows gamer to try?

    [–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

    Nobara 39.

    Its easy and quick to set up, easy to use, and has a lot of ancillary tools and stuff preinstalled to make getting into the gaming easier.

    I'm not gonna say its the second coming of christ, or all sunshine and rainbows, so to be upfront and honest... Dualboot at first, if you can. Its, presumably, your first time using linux, so you will run into more roadblocks to start simply due to lack of knowledge and experience on how to navigate things, but you'll get your baselines down quick and start getting into the windows-like usability and flow.

    [–] Landless2029@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    This is why I ask around! Haven't heard that suggestion yet

    [–] nickwitha_k@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    An extra suggestion is to put the /home mountpoint on a separate volume ( if you're comfortable doing so). This will make reinstalls easy, should you have need

    [–] Landless2029@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

    Yeah I do this currently for my Windows installs. But Windows would freak out on OS updates and reinstalls.

    I plan to redirect home on my next build

    [–] nickwitha_k@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 4 months ago

    But Windows would freak out on OS updates and reinstalls

    Sheesh! I'm glad I've been on Linux so long to have forgotten that. It just doesn't care, as long as you have it in fstab.

    [–] CeeBee_Eh@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

    My /home partition is the same one I setup almost 12 years ago. It's been through multiple versions of Ubuntu, multiple Ubuntu reinstalls, a switch over to EndeavourOS, a reinstall of EndeavourOS, cloned to multiple drives as each one failed or was upgraded to a larger sized drive. But it's the same exact /home data.

    [–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

    Nobaras kinda a new distro, but its based on Fedora (the 39 indicates its based on Fedora 39) which is well established.

    I've been using it, and the previous version of 38, and I've had a great experience with it. It also has a very active discord full of kind people willing to help.

    [–] phantomwise@lemmy.ml 4 points 4 months ago

    Definitely Nobara, it's a distro optimized for making games actually work. On other distros I always had some games that wouldn't run, but never on Nobara. Zero hassle.

    [–] Smokeydope@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

    Linux mint is my favorite os been running it many years now no issues with running games. Its a bulletproof OS esecially with timeshift snapshots SteamOS is specifically a gaming os developed by valve for the steam deck but you can installed it on any system . The key is proton which is a windows emulator comparability layer fine tuned by valves Dev team to get most games running on Linux.

    [–] snekmuffin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    far as I've heard, Mint can be iffy fhen it comes to games, mostly because they use an outdated kernel. I can also recommend something like Endeavor if the gamer in question has any knack for tech, or Nobara, which is made specifically for gaming by GloriousEgg, maintainer of ProtonGE

    [–] Smokeydope@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

    Thanks, havent heard of nobara before but it being made by the dude who maintains protob GE is interesting and I will check it out.

    [–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

    Yep, Nobara should be the default choice for a gaming focused distro due to GE, since he knows exactly what hes doing and whats needed.

    [–] henfredemars@infosec.pub 2 points 4 months ago

    I hear you about the kernel. You can install newer ones or follow the HWE line (as I do) which gives you 6.5 last time I checked.

    [–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 months ago

    Bazzite made for gaming, and isos tailored to hardware

    [–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 17 points 4 months ago (1 children)

    Games is mostly (say 90+95%) there. Windows won't go bye bye though, MS ensured customers by making government's and companies sign contracts that will be a bitch to get out of. Expect windows to be around for a long time.

    Microsoft has shit developers, but they have great marketing people and lawyers, so many lawyers...

    [–] henfredemars@infosec.pub 2 points 4 months ago

    Don't need to compete when users don't have a choice.

    It breeds complacency.

    [–] iopq@lemmy.world 11 points 4 months ago (2 children)
    [–] shirro@aussie.zone 4 points 4 months ago

    Currently school holidays here and we have multiple machines running Steam on Linux all day playing a good variety of games. None of them are competitive online games that require a rootkit so we are just fortunate I guess that the household prefers co-op lan games, sims etc. I suspect these rootkits are about as effective as anti-doping in sports. Determined cheats still cheat so anyone installing malware to play those sorts of games is probably fooling themselves.

    [–] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 months ago

    Me too, but I just emulate consoles.

    [–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 8 points 4 months ago

    macOS should also go bye bye especially with the shitty hardware that require you to sign your soul and next born over to apple. Fuck their tactics.

    [–] Clbull@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

    Games have largely caught up. Fifteen years ago, you couldn't run anything other than shitty FOSS games or the occasional Platinum AppDB rated game like World of Warcraft on Linux, and even for the latter the install instructions were convoluted. With WoW, you had to manually copy the files from each CD, save them locally and then run the installer because otherwise the installer would shit the bed and fail halfway through Discs 2 or 3.

    The final hurdle for gaming on Linux is anti-cheat and that's going to be a mountain to overcome. Only two solutions (to my knowledge) currently have native Linux support and those are Easy Anti Cheat (EAC) and Valve Anti Cheat (VAC.) You're not gonna get anything requiring Ring 0 access (like Vanguard) running on Linux anytime soon.

    [–] Adanisi@lemmy.zip 3 points 4 months ago

    You're not gonna get anything requiring Ring 0 access (like Vanguard) running on Linux anytime soon.

    Good. Kernel mode anticheat is fucking malware. Anticheat for a game should never have the same power over the system as a driver, which needs those privileges to communicate with hardware.

    [–] CeeBee_Eh@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

    Fifteen years ago, you couldn't run anything other than shitty FOSS games or the occasional Platinum AppDB rated game like World of Warcraft on Linux, and even for the latter the install instructions were convoluted.

    Hey! I was playing LOTRO just fine on Linux back then. It actually worked better on Linux than Windows back then too.

    [–] JustARegularNerd@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

    Maybe for home users. Working at an MSP, I can't see small to medium sized businesses making any changes here anytime soon, especially those that use specialized software built only for Windows.

    [–] Pissio@feddit.it 3 points 4 months ago

    In my experience, many business applications now run on the Web or are being upgraded to be. Where I work Windows pcs endure only for those who have to do technical drawing, most terminals are Ubuntu updated by ansible scripts and connected to an active directory domain running on Samba. The few PCs with Windows are slowly disappearing as hardware is upgraded ( medium-sized company with about sixty PCs ). There are also a couple of Mac's used by in-house developers/IT.