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submitted 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) by Stamets@lemmy.world to c/tenforward@lemmy.world
 

I said a while back that I was gonna change my name due to my obscene displeasure with the final season but... nah. I'm Stamets. I love my lil gay boy and I love his lil gay family and I love the ship with the weirdly long nacelles.

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[–] Anyolduser@lemmynsfw.com 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Old stories are muddied because they're old. Authorship is lost to history.

More recent works can be attributed to individuals or groups. Saying that anyone can ape a recent work and their schlock is just as valid as the work of the original author (or authors) is insulting to the people who worked hard to create original works.

You want to make a work inspired by another piece of art? Go for it, people will probably respect you for doing that. That's very, very different from writing some fan fic and screaming that your work is valid and you should be allowed to ride on someone else's coattails.

[–] naevaTheRat@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

You seem really worked up by this to the point you're strawmanning me.

It's culturally part of it, idk what tell you it's just fact. Not authored by the same person, not having the same impact probably (although sometimes works by other authors outstrip the original), probably drivel, but valid all the same.

Any other approach leads to weird inconsistencies. Like who owns a character in a group effort? generally in our legal systems a company. That company can persist beyond the involvement of all the actual authors. It makes no sense to then later exclude work they do in their own time using the same characters or settings, or ones 'legally distinct' but obviously the same.

Even weirder when it's one author who loses copyright but then writes 'invalid' fan work.

Nobody creates original works, all stories are based on other stories. Sure there are degrees of similarity but drawing lines is a messy thing that even in actual law (which is not trying to be logically coherent) it takes teams to arbitrate and only draws conclusions in self-reference.