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[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world -2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Israel never had any credibilty before oct7. Every sane journalist knew how much israel lies about everything. Such as how israel killed an American journalist 1 year earlier and lied about it for half a year straight. Putting their lies in the headline is pure undeniable propaganda there is no plausible deniability.

Never have I downplayed what happens in Ukraine. I am only pointing out how the media heavily manipulates people in favor of Israel. Showing the extreme double standard.

And if you think Russia and Ukraine are the only players you understand as much of it as I stated before.

[–] Ibuthyr@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Injecting your emotions into this whole ordeal doesn't make it any truer. I'm in no way defending Israel by the way. I think Netanjahu is a fucking Nazi prick. But comparing the two headlines randomly like this is a form of propaganda. You're doing this to invoke anger in people. I came to Lemmy to be free of this shit.

Except for treaties supporting the 2 factions, Russia invading Ukraine is a crystal clear situation. There's no complexity at all. Putin decided to attack Ukraine once more, after annexing Crimea. Putin is a lying, power hungry sack of shit. Much like Netanjahu. But the whole Israel Palestine thing has a way longer history, with way more parties that were actively involved.

I'm any case, at least we agree that both wars are shit and I do appreciate that.

[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world -3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I am not defending Putin either. Putin is and remains a brutal and oppressive dictator.

But the background of the Ukraine invasion is far more complicated than Russia just wanting to invade for land. This is about NATO promising Russia not to expand eastward and doing so anyway.

If Russia made a pact with Cuba to store nukes and ballistic missiles right next to the US, do you think we would just let that happen? The Russian invasion was entirely predicted by US policy makers far before it happened. Here's a decent video on it.

So yes Russia broke their promise of not invading Ukraine. But NATO also broke their promise of not expanding eastward next to Russian borders. And NATO the rejected Russian membership application to join NATO.

Ukraine is being used as a battleground for NATO and Russia, which are both bad and imperialistic, to conduct a war. And I do support Ukraine in the war because it's their land. But it's not all black and white.