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[–] cows_are_underrated@feddit.org -2 points 3 months ago (2 children)

My point is, that in The current conflict the Hamas attacked first. Ukraine didnt.

[–] volodya_ilich@lemm.ee 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Hamas attacked first

Palestinians was there before Israel was even conceived, and the first Nakba, in 1948, which marks the hard line of the invasion, in which 750k+ Palestinians were forcibly relocated, was started by Israel. History didn't start on October 7th

[–] cows_are_underrated@feddit.org 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

That's why I pointed out that the CURRENT conflict has been started by the Hamas. Israel may have started this conflict a long time ago, but the Palestinians also have their fair share of commiting warcrimes and violence against Israel.

[–] volodya_ilich@lemm.ee 0 points 3 months ago

If Jewish people in Nazi Germany had started a series of terrorist attacks against civilians, would you be comparing them to Nazis and telling that "both have a fair share of blood in their hands"? Because it's THAT black and white.

[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world -4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Ukraine attacked first after Russia invaded them.

The only difference is one of those people is brown and you believe colonizing brown people is okay.

[–] cows_are_underrated@feddit.org 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Bro wtf? I never said that colonizing Palestine is OK. I fucking told you that Israel is also commuting large amounts of warcrimes and is commuting genocide. I told you that both sides(Israel,Hamas) are fucking assholes that don't care about the Palestinian people who are the biggest loosers of this conflict. Where the hell did I said something racist?

[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world -1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Hamas is trying to achieve a ceasefire right now. Israel is not.

This is not a both sides thing. You have just never bothered to read up anything about Hamas.

The racist part is where you sympathize with white people resisting annexation but believe brown people resisting far worse settler colonization and Genocide is very wrong.

[–] cows_are_underrated@feddit.org 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The racist part is where you sympathize with white people resisting annexation but believe brown people resisting far worse settler colonization and Genocide is very wrong.

I never said that.

Hamas is trying to achieve a ceasefire right now. Israel is not.

This is not a both sides thing. You have just never bothered to read up anything about Hamas.

And? It is good that they try to achieve a ceasefire, but that doesn't mean, that they are the ultimatively completely neutral good guy.

[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world -2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Hamas exhausted all peaceful options and israel kept Genociding Palestinians. Only violent resistance against Genocide remains.

This is like condemning the condemning the ANC when they fought against Apartheid or the slaves during the slave revolt

Every mainstream racist American did condemn those things during that time by the way. And the news about it described them the same way we describe Hamas now.