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[–] Kaijobu@discuss.tchncs.de 52 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's not simply a climate change. It's a coined term by the fossil fuel industry. Like BP introduced the individual carbon footprint, this one should also be ignored. It's a climate crisis.

[–] Rufio@lemm.ee 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Politicians and publications that acknowledge the climate crisis should probably start using that term instead of climate change then.

[–] GladiusB@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I wonder if that is used intentionally? Like they would have a reason to make a narrative of denial?

[–] Rufio@lemm.ee 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

It’s because the “fact” the the fossil fuel industry coined the term climate change is false.

This is the preferred term by scientists, and it has been since before “global warming” became a term.

[–] GladiusB@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I was being cynical. I'm fully aware of their hellbent ideologies.

[–] Kaijobu@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Calling it climate change implies it is of natural change. It belittles the criticality of the human induced influence. The fossil fuel industry knows exactly why they are calling it climate change and not climate crisis. Global warming is also, as much as climate change, scientifically correct, but let's be honest. Since when does the industry care about scientifical facts? They use that in ill faith.

[–] Techmaster@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's called climate change because it's more than global warming. A lot of things are changing, and they're all bad. To just say global warming would be ignoring all of the other problems.

[–] Kaijobu@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 year ago

I agree. Global warming is one aspect of many of our current climate crisis. And it will become worse when politics won't restrict the reign of fossil fuel industries.

[–] Rufio@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

The fossil fuel industry denied climate change was happening at all for a long time after the term was being used by scientists.

[–] billytheid@aussie.zone 1 points 1 year ago

We used to call it The Greenhouse Effect but that was way too scary so BP gave us this bs instead

[–] Eheran@lemmy.fmhy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No, it does not imply Natural causes. There is zero (implied or explicit) information as to why the change is happening. It is merely stating a fact.

[–] Kaijobu@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I seem to have issues trying to convey my intention when I am highlighting why these industries use the term climate change now. I try it once more.

'Climate is changing. It is something that has always happened. It's natural. Climate change is completely normal.' That is the implied meaning, especially by fossil fuel industries, which more than often try to shift the blame away from them by either making it a personal issue (carbon footprint) or describing it as a natural occurance. Intentionally ignoring their influence by burning resources and releasing damaging gases, raising temperatures, melting ice, damaging the saline conveyor belt.

[–] Eheran@lemmy.fmhy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Ah yes, that is indeed the case.