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It's possible that my strategy is a losing one. It's possible that every strategy is a losing one. This is the only possible route I see, regardless of how likely it is to succeed. Maybe we'll have more strength this time. Maybe we'll have more strength next time. All I know for sure is that "lesser evilism" doesn't work, and like I said, it cedes all my bargaining power. Maybe I don't have any bargaining power in the first place, in which case what I do is irrelevant.
Point is, I have something they want, and they have something I want, and until they sit down at the table, and respect that genocide is a red line, there will be no cooperation. End of story.
The only power you have outside of protesting and activism is voting in the primaries and general.
We have the power to reduce harm in the general election, but not to stop all harm. Either Biden or Trump will win, and there will be harm regardless. Voting 3rd party doesn't stop that.
There wasn't enough political will to vote for a better candidate than Biden in the primaries, so there sure as hell will not be the political will to vote for a better candidate in the general.
I'm bi, so chances are I'll be next on the chopping block after you if Trump gets elected, so believe me I can empathize with your position. Trump will make the genocide in Palestine worse, and on top of that probably start a new one here. Biden isn't going to get either of us killed.
Bargaining with the useless police while your family is getting murdered isn't helping anyone. The negotiation table doesn't mean anything, because the negotiation table will take too long. By the time it works, the mob boss will already have you dead.
Well, I disagree. Lesser-evilist ideology that calls for sacrificing the Palestinians today will call for sacrificing trans people tomorrow, and like you say, other LGBT people next. To accept it is to accept that I will be put on the chopping block and no one will care or do anything to stop it, and it's just a matter of time. Enforcing a red line is the only possible way to ensure long-term security. If you say it won't work, then I may die trying, but I'd rather do that than resign myself to death the other way and be complicit in my own demise. That's all there is to it. I understand the situation and I've made my decision and I'm not going to change it, unless they come to the table.
I'm not calling for the sacrificing of Palestinians.
You don't have long term security with this approach. Because Trump won't give a flying fuck whether you force the DNC to act better. Trump is your security risk.
Allowing Trump to get power will be what makes you complicit in your own demise.
They will never come to the table in time. You'll/we'll be dead before then.