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No contradiction there. The former is a statement of well-documented fact and the latter is an incredulous reaction to your bizarre claim
The FUCK are you babbling about??
You literally JUST admitted that most Americans would not be in favor of suspending aid to Israel.
Are you even trying?
The fuck do you think a Trump victory is
Which is a separate question, especially to the ones who mistakenly think that Israel isn't to blame for the genocide or that they're not the only ones perpetuating it.
To get through your thick skull that some people have a favorable opinion of Israel in spite of being against their genocide? Yeah. That it's not working is entirely due to your seemingly willful resistance to simple logic.
An unmitigated disaster. One that the person you were addressing didn't advocate for at any point of this conversation.
Then how the ever-loving fuck is it a relevant question to the issue of Biden's policy of continuing aid?
So... people like, say... Joe Biden?
Why don't you go ahead and ask them who they're voting for? I've had enough encounters with Hark to know their song and dance.
No, not people who are active participants in the genocide who have vowed not to stop no matter what.
A civilian who still instinctively supports Israel in general can simultaneously oppose the genocide. It's misguided, but it's the case of many voters.
In contrast, a PRESIDENT who sometimes says "hey, please cool it, guys!" but also IS AN ACTIVE PARTICIPANT IN THE GENOCIDE WHO HAS VOWED NOT TO STOP can not in any way be said to be against the genocide that he's taking part in.
Just people who SUPPORT active participation in the genocide by sending aid and are determined not to stop regardless of the ongoing genocide. So literally the only difference is voting for this policy vs. carrying it out. Cool.
Let me put it this way - these people you're talking about, in the same position as Joe Biden, if they were suddenly appointed speaker and then Harris and Biden both resigned - what exactly would the difference considering their positions as stated by you to Biden's current approach?
If you can't understand that, then I can't help you.
Wait, wait, let me take a crack at it "They're still more moral than Biden because they aren't participating in the genocide YET, they just support the continuation of supporting the genocide as it is currently and would follow the exact same policy if they were given the power to decide our next course of action", as if that was a distinction with a difference in the context of a discussion of what people would vote for.