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[–] mannycalavera@feddit.uk 18 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Whichever way you vote, this will continue to happen. Sobering thought, eh?

[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 24 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

This isn't totally true, but it's partially true. If Trump wins the American election, he will double down support for Israel and completely write off all those who oppose them as terrorists.

Biden is just kind of apologetically supporting them because he's a weak leader that can't afford to rock the boat. He does weakly push back often, it's just nowhere near what we want or need.

If Biden actually wins the election, he may actually end American support. I'm of the opinion he's afraid of offending democrats and independents that support Israel, thus losing him the election (since he's barely ahead in the polls.) Most of us are still going to vote for him despite this, because Trump is far worse... You can't say that about the people who support Isreal.

[–] aberrate_junior_beatnik@midwest.social 15 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Biden is just kind of apologetically supporting them because he’s a weak leader that can’t afford to rock the boat ... If Biden actually wins the election, he may actually end American support

No, he is ideologically committed to supporting Israel. He has said this multiple times and I see no reason to disbelieve him. I think it's equally likely Trump would stop supporting Israel because of America First/antisemitism, which is to say, so unlikely as to be impossible.

[–] AppleTea@lemmy.zip 3 points 4 months ago

Yeah, Trump himself has no policy commitments. He'll say whatever he thinks is popular biased on the last thing he's seen on television. In office, he delivers bog-standard republican policy because that's who his cabinet gets filled with.

I don't see Biden changing his stance on arming Israel. Trump could, but the question is whether would it last long enough to actually affect policy.

[–] hark@lemmy.world 8 points 4 months ago

Biden is the #1 whore of israel. He's been sucking their dick for his entire career.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 19 points 4 months ago (1 children)

There are no quick solutions or permanent victories, unfortunately. Which is why civic education is so important, and so frustratingly undertaught.