this post was submitted on 15 Jul 2023
374 points (95.8% liked)

Fuck Cars

9639 readers
284 users here now

A place to discuss problems of car centric infrastructure or how it hurts us all. Let's explore the bad world of Cars!

Rules

1. Be CivilYou may not agree on ideas, but please do not be needlessly rude or insulting to other people in this community.

2. No hate speechDon't discriminate or disparage people on the basis of sex, gender, race, ethnicity, nationality, religion, or sexuality.

3. Don't harass peopleDon't follow people you disagree with into multiple threads or into PMs to insult, disparage, or otherwise attack them. And certainly don't doxx any non-public figures.

4. Stay on topicThis community is about cars, their externalities in society, car-dependency, and solutions to these.

5. No repostsDo not repost content that has already been posted in this community.

Moderator discretion will be used to judge reports with regard to the above rules.

Posting Guidelines

In the absence of a flair system on lemmy yet, let’s try to make it easier to scan through posts by type in here by using tags:

Recommended communities:

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] pumpsnabben@sopuli.xyz 65 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Putting my feelings of Musk to the side and he most likely wanted no other solution than Tesla cars on the road.

But...I can't find any support for the information in the title. Journalist Vance is quoted seemingly just airing his own conclusion on what Musk wanted or not.

Do we really need this grasping for straws posts about Musk when we already have tons of better and more substantial pieces?

[–] Erikatharsis@kbin.social 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The full quote goes on to say,

Musk said as much to me during a series of e-mails and phone calls leading up to the announcement. "Down the road, I might fund or advise on a Hyperloop project, but right now I can't take my eye off the ball at either SpaceX or Tesla," he wrote.

The full quote also includes,

[Hyperloop] was more that he wanted to show people that more creative ideas were out there for things that might actually solve problems and push the state forward.

Which to me indicates that Vance saw Musk not actually planning to build Hyperloop as somehow being a good thing.

https://twitter.com/parismarx/status/1167410460125097990

[–] ji59@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago

I heard (not verified) that Musk had really bad inconsistencies when he was explaining how the Hyperloop should work. If looks like he was making stuff up

[–] ConfidentLonely@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

I understand that, I did hope most people will also read the article here. But the idea suggested by Vance is clearly not too far off in my opinion. I am happy too discuss that stuff here because it would fit the theme. I am not a big fan of Musk myself so I am probably a bit biased too

[–] Dukeofdummies@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, never attribute to malice what could be explained by ineptitude and disinterest. This is just a quote of somebody else's opinion of musk.

[–] Kichae@kbin.social 15 points 1 year ago

No, no. This is the rule when dealing with people who haven't given you reason to believe they're acting in bad faith. Musk has been blatantly and openly acting in bad faith for years.

[–] Rhoeri@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

This is modern journalism. Agenda based extrapolation for clicks.