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Was it a good thing that SNW explicitly said the Federation is socialist? (startrek.website)

submitted 5 months ago by jimhensonslostpuppet@startrek.website to c/startrek@startrek.website

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In case you don't know, they explicitly use the term socialist to describe the Federation economy in SNW. I was wondering if ppl liked or hated it? I like it personally since it's not a dodge like "new world economy"

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[–] halm@leminal.space 10 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Yeah, but claiming that money is a thing of the show's past is as old as ~~the show itself.~~ The voyage home:

Almost 30 years ago we got this great bit between Picard and Lily in First contact:

— The economics of the future are somewhat different. You see, money doesn't exist in the 24th century.

— No money? You mean you don't get paid?

— The acquisition of wealth is no longer the driving force in our lives. We work to better ourselves and the rest of humanity.

This, of course, from a man with inherited real estate in La Barre... But there are several anticapitalist barbs in TNG and DS9, too.

[Edited first to add GIF, second because I got my wires crossed re private property and money]

[–] jimhensonslostpuppet@startrek.website 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

None of those quotes say private ownership of cars is gone. Cars aren't the means of production btw, so I don't even agree with SNW here.

[–] halm@leminal.space 1 points 5 months ago

You're right, I wrote one thing but my head was still at the general economy matter! Will edit.