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[–] hperrin@lemmy.world 81 points 5 months ago (3 children)

I’m not even sure they can sell Cybertruck in Iceland. Most developed countries have pedestrian safety standards that the Cybertruck can’t pass.

[–] ByteJunk@lemmy.world 36 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (3 children)

They cannot.

EU safety rules specifically forbid sharp edges (kudos to the visionary who thought about including that one...).

Additionally, it's weight is absolutely ridiculous, to the point that you cannot drive it with a standard B licence (you need at least C1, which requires specific classes and written + driving exams).

Not to mention, many streets simply cannot accommodate a car so large, and there's zero parking space for such a monstrosity in most city centers...

Edit: actually I'm not sure if Iceland included these specific EU rules, so maybe they can actually sell it there?...

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 3 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Edit: actually I'm not sure if Iceland included these specific EU rules, so maybe they can actually sell it there?...

Unless the Icelandic government explicitly passes a law to override an EU mandate, then the EU mandate applies in Iceland. It's a weird setup, as they are not actually in the EU so I'm unclear about why they follow EU mandates at all. I assume it makes trade easier.

It's hard to see why they would pass a law to override a safety consideration unless there was a grassroots movement to be able to drive cyber trucks.

[–] logi@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

so I'm unclear about why they follow EU mandates at all

We're in the EEA which at this point includes EU, Norway, Iceland and Liechtenstein. We get to be part of the common market and have free movement of goods and people and whatnot. But it requires "harmonising" rules across the market so that you don't get technical hurdles instead of straight up tariffs. And then we have no say in these harmonised rules because we're not in the EU 🤷🏼‍♂️

[–] ByteJunk@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

TIL. Ty stranger!

[–] uranibaba@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

EU safety rules specifically forbid sharp edges

That would explain why old cars had a more blocky design while newer cars have a more rounded design (in addition to aerodynamics I assume).

[–] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world -3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

The cybertruck (6653 lbs) weighs less than a Ford 150 lightning (6745lbs) and Rivian R1T (7148lbs)

It's not even worth looking up the Silverado or Hummer with their humongous batteries

All EV full size trucks are very heavy due to the batteries right now.

For the cybertruck, the stainless steel design actually allowed them to reduce weight by the steel being part of the structure, thus reducing or removing the need for things like side impact crash structures

[–] ByteJunk@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

All of which require you to get a licence to drive lorries. Your point?

[–] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world -3 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Sure, but it's weight, for what it is, isn't absolutely ridiculous and is actually best in class.

[–] englislanguage@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Yes, its weight is absolutely ridiculous. The other hobbyist's tanks you mentioned are too. Just because there is more of the same (minus razor sharp edges and rust), doesn't mean it isn't sh*t too.

[–] ASeriesOfPoorChoices@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

it's weight is ridiculous, generally speaking.

it's weight simultaneously ISN'T ridiculous for what it is. Context. For what it is, it is the least ridiculous of all those ridiculously heavy trucks.

[–] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Can you believe those Tesla Model 3 LR. They weigh 4,034 lbs, and it's a SEDAN! ABSOLUTELY RIDICULOUS! The comparable ICE Mercedes-Benz A-Class only weighs 3395 lbs, what was Tesla thinking!

[–] ASeriesOfPoorChoices@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

what's crazy is how bad those other trucks are - their batteries are huge, for barely any more range than the cybertruck. I think one of them is double the kw/km or whatever that the CT uses. I mean, the CT is hot garbage, but it's amazing that it's the least hot garbage of its class. (on paper.)

[–] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

It's the Hummer. 205kwh (311miles) vs 123kwh (320 miles CyberBeast/340 AWD).

At least the Silverado while heavier, gets more range which if you really need the range for towing, is beneficial.

[–] ByteJunk@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

That's kinda like saying "I got the better kind of herpes!"

[–] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

I got this boat I gotta tow 150 miles, sure glad I can choose the better herpes, and definitely better than years ago when my only choice was cancer!

[–] ByteJunk@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

You should consider sailing it instead, I've heard boats are actually decent at that.

[–] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

This boat was meant for one lake

And that's just what it'll do.

None of these days this boat is going find another lake.

[–] vxx@lemmy.world 8 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

Off-roading in Iceland is strictly forbidden.

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

We're talking about the cybertruck, no one is going to successfully off road in one of those anyways.

[–] englislanguage@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 5 months ago

I guess that is why Etterra is betting on it. Maybe to motivate another Darwin Award winner.

[–] Numenor@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] Numenor@lemmy.world 12 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I checked and it's true :

  1. Off-Road Driving: Damaging and Illegal Off-road driving is strictly prohibited in Iceland, and those caught engaging in the activity can face hefty fines of up to 100,000 ISK per person. Off-road driving can cause irreversible damage to Iceland's fragile ecosystems, particularly the moss, which takes hundreds of years to grow. Iceland's moss plays a vital role in preventing soil erosion and retaining water and humidity, making its preservation crucial. In 2018, a group of French tourists mistakenly believed off-road driving was allowed in Iceland, causing significant damage and getting stuck, leading to public outcry.
  1. F-Roads: A Legal and Exciting Alternative F-roads, or mountain roads, can only be accessed by 4x4 vehicles and are open for a limited period each year, typically from July to September. F-roads are often confused with off-road driving due to their unpaved, rugged appearance and rural settings, but they are legal to drive on. Some F-roads might require crossing rivers and navigating rough terrain, which is why only 4x4 vehicles are allowed on these roads. On maps, F-roads are marked with an "F" followed by a number, e.g., "F413". Some F-roads may not be clearly labeled in person, so always check your route carefully.

Source: https://www.northbound.is/blog/251/what-is-the-difference-between-f-roads-and-off-road-driving.

[–] Crikeste@lemm.ee 3 points 5 months ago (3 children)

God, Nordic countries are so fucking cool.

[–] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

Well yeah, they are further north.

[–] MeThisGuy@feddit.nl 2 points 5 months ago

viking ships is the way