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[–] Wanderer@lemm.ee 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I agree with most of what you said. But the right won't get in again unless they toughen up on immigration. The far right or the left will get in and the left know people want lowered immigration.

I'm never voting labour, I never have and I never will unless they try to get rid of FPTP. They are going to win anyway so my vote does nothing.

I'm sad to see that you've been convinced that we would ever be allowed to work less, under right wing governments.

I don't think we will. But I love this country and I'm willing to make sacrifices, if I need to work 6 days a week to keep immigration down that's a tradeoff I'm happy to accept. But again. I don't represent 20 million votes. Me voting labour or reform isn't going to get either party in power/ keep them out.

You did claim to have voted left all before this. If not labour, who was it?

The idea that "the left" want immigration is a right wing trope, full of racism. They just presume they want more as "immigrants vote left" which is statically untrue. Its a mix, as we import conservative types too.

So, with that in mind, who actaully benefits from mass immigration? Its not labour or the people they represent. So, who is it that benefits from mass lowering of wages and increased housing prices due to the manufactured housing crisis?

Well, anyone should be able to figure out that it's the wealthy and their business interests who benefit and they're represented by the right. Always have been.

I don’t think we will

Being able to work less and not having to toil all day for someone else's gain is a left wing idea. Theres no world where the right get in and we work less. In fact, everything they do is to make non-rich people work more, for less.

I care about the people who live here and not symbols or fake, fairytale history that gets weaponised and used to make people vote against their own self interest. I care to save our NHS from the very same corporate interests you want to vote for. But you'd be happy to lose even more of your life to work and our NHS, if the right wing (who benefit the most and have presided over the most immigration ever) end immigration which would be impossible and they would never do anyway.

I mean, what am I supposed to say to that?