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Real question. I would like to know what drives you to hate Apple? (In terms of privacy of course because in terms of price it’s another story).

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[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 9 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

You are correct and the person you're responding to is wrong about just about everything they said. Funny to me they think mms is why those images look so shitty when no android users have ever experienced that without an ios device involved

[–] Zak@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

MMS does have size limits that can hurt image quality, but I have the impression iOS applies limits of its own that are considerably lower. I'm not sure why anybody in 2024 wouldn't have at least a couple modern messaging apps, but it seems a lot of people don't.

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Well yes exactly. I have noticed for years that every photo or video an iPhone sends me is worse quality than flip phones used to send/receive. Amazing to me that iPhone users fall for this trick

Like they missed that the whole apple MO is to make them feel superior without evidence

[–] Zak@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

It seems like an odd decision to me, as it would make the iPhone look like it has a substandard camera to someone receiving media from one by MMS.

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The idea is to convince people that things only look good on iPhones

[–] Zak@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

It seems unlikely to have that effect when the recipient presumably communicates with people who have other brands of phone, from whom they receive better looking media.

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I mean, it certainly has that effect. The in group "knows" your phone sucks and will shame you into getting an iPhone. That's the idea and it's probably worked millions of times.

[–] Zak@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Just doesn't seem plausible to me. If Alice gets low-quality images from Bob and higher-quality images from Charlie, her most likely assumption if she's not sophisticated enough to be aware of the cause is that Bob's phone has a bad camera.

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

I've literally experienced this first hand. At least three times I've been told that I should get an iPhone when I pointed this out. You're giving people way too much credit for being rational

Hey that video you sent me is tiny. I can't even tell what's going on

Dude when are you going to get an iPhone? iMessage works great. Janky Android phones can't even receive videos?

Wouldn't surprise me at all if they'd hired psychologists to figure out the best way to make conversations like that happen

[–] Zak@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

I have no doubt about the part where iPhone fans waste no opportunity to tell someone else they should get an iPhone. It's the other side of the argument that falls flat: Alice receives video from Charlie that's perfectly fine, but Bob's iPhone sends a pixelated mess, and Bob says the iPhone is better?

[–] narc0tic_bird@lemm.ee 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Android users would use RCS for communicating with each other via the default messaging app on Android.

MMS has a hard size limit depending on the carrier the sender uses, that's independent of the sender using an Android phone or an iPhone. This limit can be as high as "more than 1 MB", but also as low as 300 KB or even less. Compressing an image down to 300 KB will naturally incur a quality penalty.

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

Rcs is a new thing and not all android phones use it even now

Photos sent from iPhones look like shit today and they did years ago. Rcs is not a factor.