this post was submitted on 13 Jun 2024
176 points (93.6% liked)

Privacy

32003 readers
927 users here now

A place to discuss privacy and freedom in the digital world.

Privacy has become a very important issue in modern society, with companies and governments constantly abusing their power, more and more people are waking up to the importance of digital privacy.

In this community everyone is welcome to post links and discuss topics related to privacy.

Some Rules

Related communities

Chat rooms

much thanks to @gary_host_laptop for the logo design :)

founded 5 years ago
MODERATORS
 

With the recent WWDC apple made some bold claims about privacy when it comes to so called Apple Intelligence. This makes me wonder if they did something to what Microsoft did with Recall feature, would people be less concerned and to an extend praise their effort?

Do you trust apple with their claims?

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

Recall in principal is a cool idea. It is also one that M$ has not earned the trust for. I think Apple would be better received. I'm not sure I would like Apple's recall, but they have done more to foster trust than M$.

[–] unknowing8343@discuss.tchncs.de 11 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I am curious why you'd think that is a good idea. I find it absolutely useless, as anything that I'd like stored... We can already easily store. But recording EVERYTHING that happens in my computer??? What kind of data hoarding obsession is this?

That is a small vulnerability away of being the biggest mistake of your life, IMO.

[–] InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Same reason file manager has a recents. It helps you return to previous work. Asking it if it remembers which paper had which conclusion or graph would make being a grad students easier. Perhaps it reminds you about some deliverable you promised in an email is due is three days. I see it as a good tool to organize productivity with. Like I said no one has earned the trust this software would require.

[–] unknowing8343@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Yes! "Recents" works fine and doesn't even need to record everything you've done and consume AI resources!

For asking about papers and so... You can do that with an AI crawler on your files!! No need to store a screenshot of everything you've ever done!

The deliverable thing, again, it can be done by directly looking up your files.

But no, somehow they went full spy instead. Companies will love to put this feature in their employee's computers.

Wanna fire someone? Let's see if they used their computer once for an unrelated-to-work task...

Now if someone gains access to your computer they'll get everything that you didn't think you even had! So great!!

[–] InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Yeah but recent only considers local files and you can't ask it which one said this or that if you don't remember. Its a good tool to keep track of a lot of things. As a student I would like that.

[–] unknowing8343@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Once you find out we've had fuzzy finders for 40 years your mind is going to be blown.

I am not saying AI is not useful. It will be an amazing use case to sprinkle some AI into fuzzyfinders, but don't let it have everything that has ever been played on screen... Passwords, private windows, one-time messages... You must be very young if you don't see the problems with that.

There is a reason why we have password protected folders and files, or how we keep some stuff locked online, or how we use private browser windows. And you want to feed all that to an AI.

[–] InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I know about the fuzzy finders and regular expressions. The Q was why I think it is helpful and I answered that. You're just hitting me with some dogma. You could also just know where your stuff is at and not need search tools either. Recall is a neat idea, but I don't have confidence in M$ execution or privacy.

[–] trollbearpig@lemmy.world -3 points 5 months ago

And Apple has earned any trust? Jesus christ people, like less than 2 months ago they were caught restoring "deleted" photos from iCloud to user devices hahahahaha. Of course fans were excusing them talking about disk sectors like that has anything to do with cloud storage being available accidentally hahahaha.

But yeah, Apple cult followers will find a way to justify surrendering even more freedom to Apple with this BS for sure. And they will be paying top dollar for the pleasure hahahaha.