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[–] Etterra@lemmy.world 41 points 4 months ago (5 children)

France has shown themself to be made of much sterner stuff in the last couple decades then the stereotypes and jokes like to make out. I mean that's not going to stop the English from making fun of France, but they still have nobility like this was 1650 or something.

[–] Madison420@lemmy.world 16 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Last couple decades? There historically the most winningest military of all time bar none.

[–] Everythingispenguins@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] Madison420@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] Everythingispenguins@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

I even look up the spelling....

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 12 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

The French have always been pretty strong. I don't know what history you read, but they've pretty consistently had one of the strongest militaries in the world. Sure, they surrendered quickly on WWII, but the people kept fighting even then when their government was occupied. They were one of the first nations to aid the United States also and have always been pretty active.

Is this all good? Idk. Besides resisting the Nazis after the occupation, I would very much argue much of this is bad (or at best self-serving). It's nation-state shit. It's never out of marality. They're strong though.

[–] Etterra@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

I said it was a stereotype. Overcoming that popular stereotype has been a lot harder than actually having a good military. And demonstrating that you have a good military is different than having one at all. Right or wrong, in the minds of many Americans they didn't start seeming strong until after 9/11.

[–] Chickenstalker@lemmy.world 8 points 4 months ago (2 children)

The English were assroped by the French Normans that they had to rename many common foodstuffs.

[–] oce@jlai.lu 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Rename or simply discover what food actually is?

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago

That it seems is yet to come.

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.zip 2 points 4 months ago

And then by French Angevins, which was later but left an even bigger impact on the language. So twice.

[–] trolololol@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Wait what fuck the nobility no matter what country

[–] LazerFX@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

If the Queen was still alive, I'd have had to eviscerate you for that.

But nobody cares about Jug Ears.

[–] trolololol@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

What has the queen ever done for you?

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.zip 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

France has shown themself to be made of much sterner stuff in the last couple decades

WDYM? France has been participating in plenty of undeclared, unofficial and gray zone wars practically since WWII till now.

the stereotypes and jokes like to make out

These change with time. Most of European history the stereotypic image of French people was much tougher than that of Germans.

After 1971 - yeah. Interwar - no. After that - again yes.

EDIT: 1871