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I'm afraid their character has been exposed
I uninstalled when they announced it but this week's news says it's time to uninstall macos too
For the moment, I’m choosing to believe the following: 1) that itermdev was operating under hyped-engineer mode and choosing cluelessly as a result (and I sorely hope they learned something through this), 2) that Apple is too selfish to go hard on openai (because it means less money for them)
#2 I’m a smidge more certain about
But both of them are deeply “ugh, fuck” kinda feelings for me.
You're probably right. I have just lost patience and trust for software in general.
I hear ya.
I haven't seen the details but apparently Apple may not be paying OpenAI for the ChatGPT functionality. So macOS may not be using ChatGPT heavily.
I seem to remember iTerm doing something weird about 10 years ago, like adding telemetry, but I can’t find it…
Maybe this?
https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/iterm2-leaks-everything-you-hover-in-your-terminal-via-dns-requests/
jfc
to get on my soapbox for a moment: iterm2 is in objc, which still has a lot of the ancillary problems that C has. testing properly is one of them - I can easily see such kind of fuckups slipping past by simple virtue of human error, possibly helped along by shitty tools/choices[0]. for example, I know of nothing in C-land that enables property-based testing, and from a quick check it seems that XCTest also runs on the human-enumerated-tests philosophy. so if no-one writes the test that'll catch it, it could at best be caught by accident (through something else maybe triggering it).
and people are also really fucking bad at thinking in/about side effects. even a lot of systems thinkers seem to fuck that up.
/soapbox
[0] - I was recently debugging why a particular piece of Go software wasn't outputting anything I was expecting at the log level I had it set. quickly went to its repo, glanced at the code just to check if my expectation was right, then popped a message to a friend who deals with more Go than I do (which is near-nil, because it is a GARBAGE FUCKING LANGUAGE OF AND CAUSING NIGHTMARES, gah). he reminded me of the fact that Go had fairly recently fixed a bug in its stdlib logging library that had fucked up which levels it would handle things, due to an error in the fucking switch statement. for the stdlib goddamn logger. a bug which had been there for over 2y iirc.
Yeah, I that’s probably what I was thinking of.