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[–] FaceDeer@fedia.io 14 points 5 months ago (1 children)

There's a difference between what the right-wing voters are wanting and what the right-wing politicians are doing. You run into the same problems with left-wing voters and politicians too. Not to say that they're "both the same", just that you can't treat them all as one big hive mind.

[–] mumblerfish@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

There is a difference. But what you are saying is not true, bacause it was tested in Sweden. All parties in parliament, except three parties at like 18% votes in total, said the far-right party have always been correct when it comes to immigration ("always" including when they were an explicit nazi party), and switched to their line. If the voters understood and did not want all that other shit, they should have switched. They did not.

But there is a difference. The people who run the party today, who joined it when it was an explicit nazi party, probably have a certain goal in their mind where they need all these steps. The voters, in general, are just rationalizing why they vote for the steps.

[–] FaceDeer@fedia.io 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

But what you are saying is not true, bacause it was tested in Sweden.

I'm saying that the voters and the politicians they vote for are not one big hive mind. You're saying that they are one big hive mind? And your example is that voters didn't switch their support when their parties changed the positions? I'm not sure you've interpreted what I said correctly.

[–] mumblerfish@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

What are you talking about? I just agreed that there is a difference between voters and politicians, and then I elaborated on one such difference. In the same comment I also tried to highlight that this still means that it is not the "immigration" question they are voting for.

[–] FaceDeer@fedia.io 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Ah. The problem is that you told me "But what you are saying is not true" and then basically agreed with what I'd said.

[–] mumblerfish@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

You may be right. I should probably have said, "what is implied by your reply in the context of the thread is not true" instead, and then perhaps elaborated on the implication some more.