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submitted 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) by spujb@lemmy.cafe to c/politicalmemes@lemmy.world
 

no one fucking told me about states banning RCV during all that yapping on here about how i should VOTE THIRD PARTY OR ELSE IM COMPLICIT in the DNCs CRIMES

it may or may not be joever, very blackpilled at this moment

edit it’s actually 10 states. 5 in the past two months.

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[–] AeonFelis@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Let's say Alice has a lead of one vote over Bob.

  • If one Alice voter decided to vote for Bob instead - Bob will have a lead of one vote.
  • If two Alice voters decide to abstain from voting - Bob will also have a lead of one vote.

Two non-voters are equivalent to one voter switching sides. Therefore - one non-vote is equivalent to half a vote for the opponent.

[–] PeggyLouBaldwin@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

you still haven't shown how to give half a vote

[–] AeonFelis@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

I showed how not voting counts as half a vote.

[–] PeggyLouBaldwin@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

but it doesn't. it isn't counted at all. this is mental gymnastics that leads to actual election misinformation. stop.

[–] AeonFelis@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

it isn’t counted at all

Puns are not valid arguments. If broke into a ballot box (for the same of the argument, let's ignore all the security measures) and took out all the votes for the candidate I didn't like, these votes will literally won't be counted. Does that mean my action doesn't count?

[–] PeggyLouBaldwin@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

it's not a pun. there is no pun at all. you're lying about how votes are counted.

[–] AeonFelis@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The pun is about the double meaning of the word "count":

  1. The literal act of measuring the number of instances of a certain thing. In our case - whether the people working the election will physically be able to count the physical vote (or digitally. This is about the concept in general, not about a particular voting mechanism)
  2. A contribution toward something. In our case - the fact the votes were stolen affects the outcome, so it counts toward changing the result.

So what am I lying about exactly? I've presented an hypothetical case, and made two claims about it:

  • That the stolen votes will not get counted (in the first meaning of the word)
  • That my action counts (in the second meaning of the word)

Which of these claim is incorrect?

[–] PeggyLouBaldwin@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I thought we were talking about counting votes the whole time. I'm not interested in helping you with your mental gymnastics routine.

[–] AeonFelis@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago

I thought we were talking about counting votes the whole time.

We are, sort of, but counting votes is not just a fun pastime activity - it's a mean for determining who will take the power (or, in depending on the political system, how the power will be distributed) so my argument is that there is a meaning to the result of that count.