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The Cloudflare Poison (sh.itjust.works)

submitted 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) by Scolding0513@sh.itjust.works to c/privacy@lemmy.ml

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Daily reminder that sites "protected" by cloudflare are effectively MITM attacks. HTTPS is now even more worthless. Cloudflare can see everything. this is a known fact and not a theory.

And if you think Cloudflare aren't being tapped by the NSA, you're sadly sadly naive.

All the "privacy respecting" sites use it too. So remember, as soon as you see that cloudflare portal page, you can assume that everything you plug into the site is property of NSA Inc. Trust no one, and do not trust code being served to you over the web if it comes through CF, there is no way to know what they've modified.

Edit: good info link below https://serverfault.com/questions/662946/does-cloudflare-know-the-decrypted-content-when-using-a-https-connection

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[–] Scolding0513@sh.itjust.works 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

ofc. they are all catch-alls for the NSA. people think the NSA is monitoring traffic as in looking over our shoulders. like direct interception. nope, they just let a few megacorps convince the entire internet to pass everything through their servers, then buy off all the data.

Once again, the earthly principle of all things being ultimately voluntarily, is still true.

[–] Reddfugee42@lemmy.world 8 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, the NSA isn't already completely integrated into telco itself. It needs these other companies to execute its tasks. You get it.

[–] Scolding0513@sh.itjust.works -3 points 5 months ago (2 children)

if they want to bypass all TLS, then yes, mr smarty pants

[–] Reddfugee42@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

If you don't think the NSA can read standard web encryption, well, that's just adorable

[–] tarmarbar@startrek.website 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I think he's saying they don't have to if they can read it off of your pc or the server before it's even encrypted. OS backdoors, in-app backdoors, hardware backdoors inside the CPU like Intel ME...

[–] Scolding0513@sh.itjust.works 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

there is a difference between targetted attacks like that and straight allowing them to dragnet you and millions of others

[–] tarmarbar@startrek.website 1 points 5 months ago

I'm not arguing for cloud flare hahahh it's horrible. I'm just saying, it's just one of many ways your data is taken. I don't see why the backdoors I listed should be used for targeted "attacks" only. They call it telemetry and it's "used to improve the product you use" hehehh