this post was submitted on 07 Jun 2024
347 points (92.0% liked)

Fuck Cars

9666 readers
26 users here now

A place to discuss problems of car centric infrastructure or how it hurts us all. Let's explore the bad world of Cars!

Rules

1. Be CivilYou may not agree on ideas, but please do not be needlessly rude or insulting to other people in this community.

2. No hate speechDon't discriminate or disparage people on the basis of sex, gender, race, ethnicity, nationality, religion, or sexuality.

3. Don't harass peopleDon't follow people you disagree with into multiple threads or into PMs to insult, disparage, or otherwise attack them. And certainly don't doxx any non-public figures.

4. Stay on topicThis community is about cars, their externalities in society, car-dependency, and solutions to these.

5. No repostsDo not repost content that has already been posted in this community.

Moderator discretion will be used to judge reports with regard to the above rules.

Posting Guidelines

In the absence of a flair system on lemmy yet, let’s try to make it easier to scan through posts by type in here by using tags:

Recommended communities:

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
347
Urban Microcars (sh.itjust.works)
submitted 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) by freebee@sh.itjust.works to c/fuckcars@lemmy.world
 

Society's got priorities wrong.

  • most car travels are 1 person or sometimes 2 person

  • the majority of car travels are quite short, less than 40km.

  • many car travels are just to get some groceries or drop of a little package or just say "hi" to someone, carrying nothing but themselves.

  • cars are fucking expensive, to buy and to maintain

  • accidents become way worse with heavier vehicles

Microcar is a valid answer to all of these, while still being sheltered from weather.

How are urban places (i'm in Belgium) with almost permanent super heavy road traffic congestion, bad climate statistics, high polution values, very limited available space left, no self-sustaining energy production and high traffic accident statistics still pooring in billions and billions in subsidies year after year into "regular" big heavy SUV-like vehicles instead of these? It's beyond my comprehension. The only real valid reason i somewhat get is the collective scare of being in a crash and not wanting to be in the smaller vehicle. We could save the climate, we choose not to.

  • MICROLINO: 17.990 €
  • OPEL ROCKS: 8.699 €
  • CITROEN AMI: 7.790 €
  • RENAULT TWIZY: 13.000 €
  • FIAT TOPOLINO: 9.890 €

A lot of people here casually spend more on a sunday racing bike every few years for fucks sake.

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] Telodzrum@lemmy.world 8 points 5 months ago (4 children)

Drive in dense traffic in a vehicle with effectively no crumple zones? Hard pass.

[–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 14 points 5 months ago

Climate change can't kill you if everyone else does first

[–] freebee@sh.itjust.works 12 points 5 months ago

welcome to the arms race.

[–] norimee@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

They don't have much power and don't go very fast.

[–] vale@sh.itjust.works 8 points 5 months ago (1 children)

the problem isn't that these ones don't, it's that others do

[–] norimee@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago

Of course, but I guess this is also a problem with infrastructure. As a European, I think "Great, that's way safer than a bicycle". But the US isn't a place for bicycles either and when you have to share the streets mainly with overpowered SUVs, then of course it's getting exponentially more dangerous.

What you need is infrastructure that gives space to smaller transportation modes. This is something you need to resolve in politics. In Europe infrastructure for non-cars is a major campaign topic. Politicians care about it, because the public does. If you as voters don't make it known that you need alternatives to cars, your infrastructure will never reflect that. Hold your politicians accountable and vote accordingly.

[–] creditCrazy@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago

After getting stuck in traffic jams in both a giant land yacht 56 bel air and a tiny little 00 z3 crumple zone is kinda the least of my worries compared to getting cramps in my compact z3 my time in car centric Florida I was really begging to just have bench seats so I can at least stretch my legs inside my car