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[–] Shdwdrgn@mander.xyz 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Do we trust the guy who tanked his own party's bipartisan bill just so he could still keep rambling on about there being a "problem" with immigrants? We all know Biden only made this change because conservatives can't see part their own rhetoric about the border problem, they choose to ignore that Republicans won't pass any bill regarding the border with daddy-Trump's blessing, now will they acknowledge the fact that the number of people illegally entering has actually gotten lower under Biden.

If the party on the right actually wanted to DO something about immigration, they could have done so already. This post is just another lame attempt to make a "both sides" argument while ignoring the reality of the situation.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The reality of the situation is that dems are in charge and doing exact same thing as the other right wing party

[–] Shdwdrgn@mander.xyz 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The Dems are in charge? Excuse you? Republicans have 49 votes (compared to 47 for Dems) in the Senate, and 218 votes (213 for Dems) in the House.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml -2 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Dems had majority in both houses when abortion rights were rolled back last I checked.

[–] Shdwdrgn@mander.xyz 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Which makes no difference since they have no say over SCOTUS rulings. You could just as easily be arguing that the Republicans didn't block abortion rights during all of the many times they have been in control of both houses AND has a president backing them. Didn't make any difference then, either, did it?

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml -2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The mental gymnastics that libs will do to justify their party making no attempt to uphold anything it stands for are absolutely hilarious. You people are the main reason burgerland is the shithole that it is.

[–] Shdwdrgn@mander.xyz -1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

You're the one who is trying to change grade-school level politics to suit your own beliefs. If you think I'm making this up then it's up to you to prove me wrong. If the best you can come up with is name-calling then you already know you lost the argument.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

What you're doing here is pure sophistry. There's no actual statement to be proven wrong. Dems did not lift a finder, and that's the reality. Grow up.

[–] Shdwdrgn@mander.xyz 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Also, 2010 was the last time Dems controlled both houses, so you're wrong on that count as well.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml -1 points 5 months ago (2 children)
[–] Shdwdrgn@mander.xyz 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

So according to your own links, Democrats controlled the House and Republicans controlled the Senate after the 2020 election. And what's your point? Anything as contentious as women's rights can be passed by one chamber and vetoed by the other chamber. They still don't have any authority to overrule SCOTUS, and they can't pass something without support from both chambers.

As I said before, your argument has no weight. If this were an easy thing to do, Republicans also could have passed a bill completely eliminating women's rights in the past when they had full control of both houses and the presidency. Funny how they didn't do that.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 0 points 5 months ago
[–] shitescalates@midwest.social -1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Need 60 votes to truly control the senate.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml -1 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] shitescalates@midwest.social 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

No that's how the senate works. Filibuster.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml -1 points 5 months ago

Democrats could have used their senate majority to eliminate the filibuster. You evidently have infantile understanding of how your senate works.