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[–] Awkwardly_Frank@lemmy.world 9 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

That may be so, but it doesn’t stop it from being a complicated situation. What happens to US international relations when the rest of their allies come to the conclusion that they’ll be met with bombs and threats when they don’t respond to requests the way the US wants? If the US does far, far less, how much less is enough and how much is too much? What happens when Iran, its proxies, and other adversaries of Israel realize that its biggest ally no longer has its back?

I’m not telling you that calling for an end to the bloodshed is wrong, it’s not. I’m not telling you that the United States and the international community are doing enough to pressure Israel to respect human rights. I don’t think anyone knows enough of what’s going on behind the scenes to say for certain that enough is being done and what’s going on in front of our eyes says that more is required. What I am saying is that complex, world issues are complex and we cannot have a full understanding of them, nor a productive discussion about them unless we acknowledge their complexities.

Edit: I do appreciate the breakdown of how a threat works though.

[–] Paragone@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago

Someone who stands outside of ideology and thinks.

Thank you.

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[–] conditional_soup@lemm.ee 1 points 5 months ago

We already do make threats (of varying kinds, usually financial) to control our allies, as well as our enemies. We've caused whole ass revolutions because fruit companies stood to lose money. The US plays dirty whenever we want and lose zero sleep about it, and I see no reason why stopping genocide should suddenly be a case for doing everything above board. I mean, really, I'm not buying it that the same country that said "fuck ur laws lol" and teabagged Osama Bin Ladin in the middle of the night and has declared itself beyond the reach of the ICC is suddenly tied up by international laws and relationships and is just simply helpless to do anything but build a dock that can't even float.