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[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 58 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (4 children)

Toxic masculinity is bad. Men's liberation is good. Look up Men's liberation if you struggle with feeling "manly".

Sincerely,

A Fucking Combat Infantry Veteran

(For real, patriarchal rules are made up and the points don't matter)

[–] DScratch@sh.itjust.works 20 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Let me jump in and hit you with: Any rule/role that is assigned to just one gender is (as far as I can tell) harmful and toxic and should be ignored. With that in mind, what does gender actually do for society? IMO: Nothing. Abolish the concept of gender.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 11 points 3 months ago

Oh absolutely.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Yeah anyone who demands masculinity of you isn’t worth your time. Focus on emotional maturity and stability, not the bullshit stoicism some people expect of men

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

That was always just trauma. So much trauma. That was the secret sauce for that stoicism.

[–] FatTony@lemm.ee 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Thank you for your fucking service.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

Hehe, I like a little satire now and then.

[–] ZwoofBlaf@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

Oh interesting. I'm also a cis hetero male but very feminist and a bit queer.

For me I've never had this push to be masculine since I was young. I would never have been able to fit in in the army or another toxic masculine organisation. Or even being barked orders at, I could not deal with that. I've never been capable of being a "team player". But I have always been OK with being different. But I was not aware of this movement. I will read more about it.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Always glad to spread the idea. And it's about more than personal masculinity, it's about looking at the rules society puts around men too. Much like we're trying to break the stereotypes around women in Feminism, Men's liberation does that for us.

[–] brognak@lemm.ee 2 points 2 months ago

Just wanted to bandwagon and thank you also. This is basically what I believe and espouse but now I know there's a broader term! Much appreciated!

[–] Taalnazi@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

Glad to see you and @Maggoty@lemmy.world fighting against toxic masculinity and for breaking stereotypes, love to see it!